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What really matters is how much carbon you can capture per unit electricity used. Presumably you're going to run the carbon-capture plant on renewable electric

by dfboyd 5y ago

What really matters is how much carbon you can capture per unit electricity used. Presumably you're going to run the carbon-capture plant on renewable electricity. If it can't capture more carbon per watt-hour than your dirtiest non-renewable power plant, you might as well just use the renewable electricity directly and junk the non-renewable plant.

afiori 5y ago
One thing I do not fully understand is whether the capture has a useful output or simply store the CO2 in some stable but useless form
- CorrectHorseBat 5y ago
  >The extracted CO2 will then be piped from the collector boxes to a nearby processing facility, where it will be mixed with water and diverted to a deep underground well. And there it will rest. Underground. Forever, presumably. The carbon dioxide captured from the Icelandic air will react with basalt rocks and begin a process of mineralization that takes several years, but it will never function as a heat-trapping atmospheric gas again. The only use is in removing it from the atmosphere.
  - elric 5y ago
    That's not entirely true. IIRC, climeworks have also partnered with companies who can use the CO2 directly (in carbonated drinks, or in actual greenhouses). The majority of the CO2 in drinks will probably just end up the air again, unless some of it binds to calcium in the body or something?
    - Nition 5y ago
      > in carbonated drinks Wouldn't that just put it back in the atmosphere though? I suppose it's better than using CO2 from some other source, but still.
      - elric 5y ago
        Yeah that's what I suspect. Apparently some of the consumed CO2 binds with calcium, some is burped out, and some presumably comes out the other end, but I couldn't find any numbers on how much ends up where.
- tito 5y ago
  You can click on the "Products" tab of the AirMiners Index (https://airminers.org/explore https://airminers.org/explore) for startups making useful products out of carbon dioixde
maelito 5y ago
This. I can't understand how one can write such a long article about this without talking kWh, energy sources, etc.
yellow_lead 5y ago
It might be useful to develop this tech and test it even if it's not helping yet though.

by dfboyd 5y ago

afiori 5y ago

One thing I do not fully understand is whether the capture has a useful output or simply store the CO2 in some stable but useless form

CorrectHorseBat 5y ago
>The extracted CO2 will then be piped from the collector boxes to a nearby processing facility, where it will be mixed with water and diverted to a deep underground well. And there it will rest. Underground. Forever, presumably. The carbon dioxide captured from the Icelandic air will react with basalt rocks and begin a process of mineralization that takes several years, but it will never function as a heat-trapping atmospheric gas again. The only use is in removing it from the atmosphere.
- elric 5y ago
  That's not entirely true. IIRC, climeworks have also partnered with companies who can use the CO2 directly (in carbonated drinks, or in actual greenhouses). The majority of the CO2 in drinks will probably just end up the air again, unless some of it binds to calcium in the body or something?
  - Nition 5y ago
    > in carbonated drinks Wouldn't that just put it back in the atmosphere though? I suppose it's better than using CO2 from some other source, but still.
    - elric 5y ago
      Yeah that's what I suspect. Apparently some of the consumed CO2 binds with calcium, some is burped out, and some presumably comes out the other end, but I couldn't find any numbers on how much ends up where.
tito 5y ago
You can click on the "Products" tab of the AirMiners Index (https://airminers.org/explore https://airminers.org/explore) for startups making useful products out of carbon dioixde

maelito 5y ago

This. I can't understand how one can write such a long article about this without talking kWh, energy sources, etc.

yellow_lead 5y ago

It might be useful to develop this tech and test it even if it's not helping yet though.