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This is really frustrating - Google make it fairly difficult to have a decent android phone I can reliably order.
by nachteilig 5y ago
This is really frustrating - Google make it fairly difficult to have a decent android phone I can reliably order.
- marderfarker2 5y agoThere are tons of other good android phones in the market.
- sarmadsohaib 5y agoYes. Samsung have some good phones too.
- bqmjjx0kac 5y agoAm I misreading, or do you frequently purchase more units of the same phone?
- smallerfish 5y agoThey released the 5A and are coming out with the 6 soon. What's the issue? https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/17/22627253/google-pixel-5a-specs-price-screen-battery-availability https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/17/22627253/google-pixel-5a-...
- toast0 5y agoThe model lifetime is too short. You can't get any idea of medium term reliability (as a proxy for long term reliability) until when the phones are discontinued.
- smallerfish 5y agoI'm by no means a google booster, but the 4A 5G is supported through Nov 2023, and the 5 through Oct 2023. That's not bad.
- sarmadsohaib 5y agoApple providing 7 years of official support, i think.
- verdverm 5y agoAnd yet they lost a class action related to software updates making the hardware unusable and face more. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/25/22248408/apple-class-action-suit-throttling-iphone-europe https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/25/22248408/apple-class-acti... https://www.smartphoneperformancesettlement.com/ https://www.smartphoneperformancesettlement.com/
- masklinn 5y agoYes turns out dropping support entirely is less risky than bad updates tanking performances, because you’re not immediately and personally causing issues.
- zitterbewegung 5y agoThose are real issues but that misses the point that iPhones have seven years of support which also decreases the TCO of the iPhone to around 62% less than the competition.
- kemayo 5y agoTechnically they didn't lose it -- that's a settlement. This might sound like I'm being pedantic -- and I am -- but it's an important distinction! It means there was never some official legal determination that they did something wrong. The specific thing they were sued over was "we slowed down your phone when the battery got old, because the alternative was it crashing, and we didn't tell you we were doing it". Not explaining it was bad, but they've since fixed that, and the underlying technical thing they did seems reasonable and, to the point of this discussion, actually prolonged the usable life of the phone.
- kemayo 5y agoAssuming you bought one on launch day, that's just-under 4 years of support. That only looks good by the awful standards of Android -- you can expect 50%+ more for Apple's phones, which you'd think Google could at least equal.
- theodric 5y agoThe Pixel 6/6 Pro are rumored to have a 5-year support lifetime (in exchange for costing a grand). If true, I'm getting one. The Pixel 2 XL has been a great phone, despite spending all of Android 10 with most of the sensors not working due to some widespread corruption issue that would have necessitated a hard reset.
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- numpad0 5y agoLooks like external dimensions are different, so they’re mechanically incompatible. With iPhones, mechanical dimensions are so close together that cases are 1-2 generations backwards compatible.
- xur17 5y agoCompared to the price of a phone, cases are fairly cheap. Is the ability to reuse a case important for other reasons?
- steve_adams_86 5y agoI’d say reducing waste is important.
- numpad0 5y agoMechanical dimensions being close together definitely is. It’s a PITA when phones grow but your 3D printed cases don’t.
- shantara 5y agoThe issue is that every new Google phone is available in less and less countries. 5a looks like a good option to replace my current 3a, but it is impossible to officially buy it here in Europe.
- fsflover 5y agoIf you want a smartphone that lasts, consider Librem 5 or Pinephone. They support mainline Linux kernel and will receive security updates forever.
- theodric 5y agoSpecs like a 2013 smartphone, and an OS without any commercial app support to speak of. Can't read my work e-mail, can't access my bank...a computer without useful software is only a toy, and the same goes for a phone.
- fsflover 5y agoAnswers (related to Librem 5): https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#14-do-the-specs-justify-paying-599-899-for-the-librem-5 https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque... https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Frequently-Asked-Questions#32-why-buy-the-librem-5-when-there-are-no-apps-for-it https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/community-wiki/-/wikis/Freque...
- unicornporn 5y agoIn theory I wanted a Pinephone. That's until I saw it run GloDroid. So choppy it's unusable. My next phone will be a Fairphone with LineageOS[1]. At least they're trying[2]. [1] https://forum.fairphone.com/t/official-lineageos-18-1-for-fairphone-3-fairphone-3/74662/122 https://forum.fairphone.com/t/official-lineageos-18-1-for-fa... [2] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/the-fairphone-2-hits-five-years-of-updates-with-some-help-from-lineageos/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/the-fairphone-2-hits...
- mmastrac 5y agoI'm considering the Fairphone as well, but could someone give me a reasonable idea of what to expect with running de-googled vs googled? Unfortunately I still need access to Gmail and Drive from my phone on occasion. Is that still available when de-Googled? I'd love to have a full Android VM running on a de-Googled phone where I could sandbox all of the Google stuff.
- chrisseaton 5y agoWhy do you need to reliably order an older generation of phone?
- masklinn 5y agoCompany fleet?
- chrisseaton 5y agoSeems like a niche requirement that Google aren't aiming or claiming to meet - these are consumer phones not components for building into a system.
- masklinn 5y agoDoesn't really help someone looking for a well-supported "baseline" (no extra garbage from the manufacturer) android phone for company fleets.
- sarmadsohaib 5y agoBTW Samsung s20 FE is a good device. What do you think?