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I'm confused. Do you mean the millions of "long covid" cases which already exist today? Or the estimate that about 70% of all people who got the vaccine will be

I'm confused. Do you mean the millions of "long covid" cases which already exist today? Or the estimate that about 70% of all people who got the vaccine will be dead within 3 years? I know which of these two I consider gaslighting.

daddylongstroke 5y ago
>Do you mean the millions of "long covid" cases which already exist today? Long covid has yet to be scientifically proven.
- inter_netuser 5y ago
  post-infection syndromes are well established, and not unique to coronaviruses. It can occur after an infection with ANY pathogen, including covid-19. after any critical illness, doesn't even have to be an infection, with an ICU stay where intubation was required, the odds are ~50% you will be left with a permanent injury for life. However even after relatively moderate infection a permanent lifelong injury may remain. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21161-post-intensive-care-syndrome-pics https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21161-post-in... It's not like injuries are binary: dead or alive. you could also end up alive, but in a wheelchair with oxygen for life. There is a huge spectrum in between, anything from vague brainfog, properly known as executive dysfunction, to partial or total paralysis due to a neuropathy often requiring mechanical ventilation, narcolepsy, organ failures, autoimmune conditions, and so on and so on. None of this is new, nor controversial.
  - h0l0cube 5y ago
    I compiled these links a month or so ago (an aeon in Covid-time): Brain damage - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6 Pulmonary function - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7997144/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7997144/ Cardiovascular disease - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-020-0413-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-020-0413-9
  - daddylongstroke 5y ago
    No doubt. I've posted this in several threads on HN already. But what I'm stating stands - people (mostly media) are starting to treat and report on "Long Covid" as if it's own disease. You are left with permanent long term issues from cold, flu, and all other infections.

daddylongstroke 5y ago

>Do you mean the millions of "long covid" cases which already exist today? Long covid has yet to be scientifically proven.

inter_netuser 5y ago
post-infection syndromes are well established, and not unique to coronaviruses. It can occur after an infection with ANY pathogen, including covid-19. after any critical illness, doesn't even have to be an infection, with an ICU stay where intubation was required, the odds are ~50% you will be left with a permanent injury for life. However even after relatively moderate infection a permanent lifelong injury may remain. https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21161-post-intensive-care-syndrome-pics https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21161-post-in... It's not like injuries are binary: dead or alive. you could also end up alive, but in a wheelchair with oxygen for life. There is a huge spectrum in between, anything from vague brainfog, properly known as executive dysfunction, to partial or total paralysis due to a neuropathy often requiring mechanical ventilation, narcolepsy, organ failures, autoimmune conditions, and so on and so on. None of this is new, nor controversial.
- h0l0cube 5y ago
  I compiled these links a month or so ago (an aeon in Covid-time): Brain damage - https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6 Pulmonary function - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7997144/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7997144/ Cardiovascular disease - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-020-0413-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-020-0413-9
- daddylongstroke 5y ago
  No doubt. I've posted this in several threads on HN already. But what I'm stating stands - people (mostly media) are starting to treat and report on "Long Covid" as if it's own disease. You are left with permanent long term issues from cold, flu, and all other infections.