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Operating Systems: Timeline and Family Tree

100 points by manuelmagic 5y ago

manuelmagic 5y ago
I already sent to eylenburg a small suggestion: after 2016 MacOS X is called macOS.
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sebow 5y ago
Very impressive list.Though I would have liked a button to download a image of the whole thing, screenshotting it's kind of a pain even on a 4K display.
im_down_w_otp 5y ago
Nice to see A/ROSE on there. You haven't been forgotten little fella! Such a cool idea that actually worked pretty well and simultaneously went next to nowhere.
rasz 5y ago
clicking Back to Homepage we land on a curious selection of lists and articles: Who is "White"? Decline of White Demographics German Elections since 1871 What would the World look like if the Axis had won WW2? EU of Regions after Right-Wing Takeover Im sensing a bit of a theme here.
- infradig 5y ago
  May well be a theme, but since the author is Jewish don't draw a long bow.
_game_of_life 5y ago
No Temple OS.... REPENT HEATHEN.
SavantIdiot 5y ago
Awesome compilation but two rendering problems: 1. scrolling, I can't see the right side 2. collapsable hierarchies - i can't get a bird's-eye view for prolific parents
- mortenjorck 5y ago
  This would be a fun dataset to run an interactive visualization on – I presume the author used some kind of relational data structure to generate the SVG; I wonder if they'd mind sharing it.
  - mmahemoff 5y ago
    I'd also like to know what tool is used to generate the diagram. On a separate note, it's great, but could do with a way to search.
  - bejelentkezni 5y ago
    It looks very similar to this[1] which uses a fork of a deprecated project called gnuclad[2], which, like gnuplot, is not a GNU project. [1]https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline [2]https://launchpad.net/gnuclad https://launchpad.net/gnuclad
supergarfield 5y ago
Great graph! Another one I like is this one by Eric Levenez: https://www.levenez.com/unix/ https://www.levenez.com/unix/. It's a little more detailed, as it includes specific releases and non-inheritance relationships, but it's only for Unix systems.
feikname 5y ago
Link to SVG because scrolling doesn't work in website: https://eylenburg.github.io/pics/Eylenburg_Operating_System_Timeline_Family_Tree.svg https://eylenburg.github.io/pics/Eylenburg_Operating_System_...
convolvatron 5y ago
just think of how many years of effort many of those dots represent. and how OS development is such a small fraction of overall software development. and how much of that software just evaporated from the world because it was no longer useful. feels sort of like monkeys at typewriters sometimes
- aninteger 5y ago
  True, but the same statement could be made about most software (including perhaps 95% of apps on Android and iOS app stores). Perhaps mobile apps provide some form of return on investment through mobile advertising, although it's probably not much. Anyway, there are people that are perfectly willing to toil away on their labor of love because it's a hobby for them and they get some form of satisfaction from it all.
- jeppesen-io 5y ago
  > just evaporated from the world because it was no longer useful. If lessons were learned, either what is good/useful/supportable or what not good/useful/supportable then it's not wasted work Plan9 is long gone but still provided good ideas that Linux and other use to this day. I'm sure some ideas have been taken from BeOS etc etc
omoikane 5y ago
What operating system is "doesmu"? I suspect it's really a typo for "dosemu", but it seems strange to include that on chart of operating systems.
howolduis 5y ago
I can't scroll horizontally...
jeppesen-io 5y ago
I want this a poster
jeppesen-io 5y ago
Interesting how the Linuxes were picked and split up. I understand the difficulty on where to draw the line on what Linux to add - so many out there. But I'd expect to see NixOS on there - such a different way to interact with a (u|li)nix system, aside from GNU Guix System. I'd consider those more of an "Operating System" than say mandrake, which is on the list
jeppesen-io 5y ago
windows nt started from os/2? no idea
krylon 5y ago
This is amazing, but it would be even better if one could zoom in and out, and scroll left to right. On a 1080p display, I could not read some of the names because they were overlapping. Minor, minor nitpick: I miss NIROS, the NIxdorf Realtime OS. I know little more about it than its name and that it was used on their line of Quattro machines, which I think were kind of minicomputers built around MIPS CPUs. There is another OS by Nixdorf listed, which I know nothing about, is that a different system?
islandnut 5y ago
Bad.Bad.Bad. According to this timeline Linux started before BSD/Free/NetBSD split. Not only this but is not even drawn as Minix clone. Minix itself isn't even related on this timeline to UNICS (or AT&T UNIX) whatsoever. UNICS isn't even close somewhere on this timeline to Multics(which is much lower).
- manuelmagic 5y ago
  You can write to the author and make a suggestion, like I did.
ChrisArchitect 5y ago
Fun to look around the chart. Had forgotten of any link between OS/2 and NT, tho maybe not as clear directly connected, even though similar hires and since IBM and MS were working together you would think the conversation was shared.

100 points by manuelmagic 5y ago

manuelmagic 5y ago

I already sent to eylenburg a small suggestion: after 2016 MacOS X is called macOS.

deleted 5y ago

[deleted]

sebow 5y ago

Very impressive list.Though I would have liked a button to download a image of the whole thing, screenshotting it's kind of a pain even on a 4K display.

im_down_w_otp 5y ago

Nice to see A/ROSE on there. You haven't been forgotten little fella! Such a cool idea that actually worked pretty well and simultaneously went next to nowhere.

rasz 5y ago

clicking Back to Homepage we land on a curious selection of lists and articles: Who is "White"? Decline of White Demographics German Elections since 1871 What would the World look like if the Axis had won WW2? EU of Regions after Right-Wing Takeover Im sensing a bit of a theme here.

infradig 5y ago
May well be a theme, but since the author is Jewish don't draw a long bow.

_game_of_life 5y ago

No Temple OS.... REPENT HEATHEN.

SavantIdiot 5y ago

Awesome compilation but two rendering problems: 1. scrolling, I can't see the right side 2. collapsable hierarchies - i can't get a bird's-eye view for prolific parents

mortenjorck 5y ago
This would be a fun dataset to run an interactive visualization on – I presume the author used some kind of relational data structure to generate the SVG; I wonder if they'd mind sharing it.
- mmahemoff 5y ago
  I'd also like to know what tool is used to generate the diagram. On a separate note, it's great, but could do with a way to search.
- bejelentkezni 5y ago
  It looks very similar to this[1] which uses a fork of a deprecated project called gnuclad[2], which, like gnuplot, is not a GNU project. [1]https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline https://github.com/FabioLolix/LinuxTimeline [2]https://launchpad.net/gnuclad https://launchpad.net/gnuclad

supergarfield 5y ago

Great graph! Another one I like is this one by Eric Levenez: https://www.levenez.com/unix/ https://www.levenez.com/unix/. It's a little more detailed, as it includes specific releases and non-inheritance relationships, but it's only for Unix systems.

feikname 5y ago

Link to SVG because scrolling doesn't work in website: https://eylenburg.github.io/pics/Eylenburg_Operating_System_Timeline_Family_Tree.svg https://eylenburg.github.io/pics/Eylenburg_Operating_System_...

convolvatron 5y ago

just think of how many years of effort many of those dots represent. and how OS development is such a small fraction of overall software development. and how much of that software just evaporated from the world because it was no longer useful. feels sort of like monkeys at typewriters sometimes

aninteger 5y ago
True, but the same statement could be made about most software (including perhaps 95% of apps on Android and iOS app stores). Perhaps mobile apps provide some form of return on investment through mobile advertising, although it's probably not much. Anyway, there are people that are perfectly willing to toil away on their labor of love because it's a hobby for them and they get some form of satisfaction from it all.
jeppesen-io 5y ago
> just evaporated from the world because it was no longer useful. If lessons were learned, either what is good/useful/supportable or what not good/useful/supportable then it's not wasted work Plan9 is long gone but still provided good ideas that Linux and other use to this day. I'm sure some ideas have been taken from BeOS etc etc

omoikane 5y ago

What operating system is "doesmu"? I suspect it's really a typo for "dosemu", but it seems strange to include that on chart of operating systems.

howolduis 5y ago

I can't scroll horizontally...

jeppesen-io 5y ago

I want this a poster

jeppesen-io 5y ago

Interesting how the Linuxes were picked and split up. I understand the difficulty on where to draw the line on what Linux to add - so many out there. But I'd expect to see NixOS on there - such a different way to interact with a (u|li)nix system, aside from GNU Guix System. I'd consider those more of an "Operating System" than say mandrake, which is on the list

jeppesen-io 5y ago

windows nt started from os/2? no idea

krylon 5y ago

This is amazing, but it would be even better if one could zoom in and out, and scroll left to right. On a 1080p display, I could not read some of the names because they were overlapping. Minor, minor nitpick: I miss NIROS, the NIxdorf Realtime OS. I know little more about it than its name and that it was used on their line of Quattro machines, which I think were kind of minicomputers built around MIPS CPUs. There is another OS by Nixdorf listed, which I know nothing about, is that a different system?

islandnut 5y ago

Bad.Bad.Bad. According to this timeline Linux started before BSD/Free/NetBSD split. Not only this but is not even drawn as Minix clone. Minix itself isn't even related on this timeline to UNICS (or AT&T UNIX) whatsoever. UNICS isn't even close somewhere on this timeline to Multics(which is much lower).

manuelmagic 5y ago
You can write to the author and make a suggestion, like I did.

ChrisArchitect 5y ago

Fun to look around the chart. Had forgotten of any link between OS/2 and NT, tho maybe not as clear directly connected, even though similar hires and since IBM and MS were working together you would think the conversation was shared.