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PIs are stalkers for hire. dubdigidob is being blunt, but I think he's right. I don't want rapists chiming in to offer their perspective on stories about rap

PIs are stalkers for hire. dubdigidob is being blunt, but I think he's right. I don't want rapists chiming in to offer their perspective on stories about rape; nor do I welcome PIs chiming in with their opinions on stories about corporations using PIs to stalk and harass people.

vorpalhex 5y ago
I have a family member who just used a PI to get child support from someone hiding income illegally. PIs are used to catch cheating spouses, insider trading, theft and corporate espionage. That doesn't mean PIs or given practices are immune to criticism. However, blunt statements such as "PIs are stalkers for hire" are so sloppy as to be factually incorrect and useless, and comparing them to rapists belays naiveity and an agenda.
- dogorman 5y ago
  A stalker for hire who occasionally stalks somebody who's also a scumbag, if the money is right? Give me a break. Such lame defenses of the profession only serve to further damn it. > comparing them to rapists belays naiveity and an agenda. An agenda huh? I guess you mean it's personal to me? Well you're right; a former employer sicced such goons on me and one of them got nasty. That's my "agenda" pal; being a victim of this profession.
- dubdigidob 5y ago
  All of those examples could be handled in a way that doesn’t amount to assigning a human being to track and monitor another human being. Child support is also a civil matter that shouldn’t involve one party legally stalking the other party. What is the point of any governing body then? It’s enabling one system to slack off while normalizing a predatory profession that, just from my cursory Google search, rarely seems to be used for the betterment of society against large general opponents but rather for overreaching ethics and civil matters that surely could still function with a more consent-able alternative.

vorpalhex 5y ago

I have a family member who just used a PI to get child support from someone hiding income illegally. PIs are used to catch cheating spouses, insider trading, theft and corporate espionage. That doesn't mean PIs or given practices are immune to criticism. However, blunt statements such as "PIs are stalkers for hire" are so sloppy as to be factually incorrect and useless, and comparing them to rapists belays naiveity and an agenda.

dogorman 5y ago
A stalker for hire who occasionally stalks somebody who's also a scumbag, if the money is right? Give me a break. Such lame defenses of the profession only serve to further damn it. > comparing them to rapists belays naiveity and an agenda. An agenda huh? I guess you mean it's personal to me? Well you're right; a former employer sicced such goons on me and one of them got nasty. That's my "agenda" pal; being a victim of this profession.
dubdigidob 5y ago
All of those examples could be handled in a way that doesn’t amount to assigning a human being to track and monitor another human being. Child support is also a civil matter that shouldn’t involve one party legally stalking the other party. What is the point of any governing body then? It’s enabling one system to slack off while normalizing a predatory profession that, just from my cursory Google search, rarely seems to be used for the betterment of society against large general opponents but rather for overreaching ethics and civil matters that surely could still function with a more consent-able alternative.