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oh hey everyone, author here, ssheven is still beta quality, so I wasn't really posting about it anywhere yet, but it's usable and has the core functionality wo

by cy384 5y ago

oh hey everyone, author here, ssheven is still beta quality, so I wasn't really posting about it anywhere yet, but it's usable and has the core functionality working ok I plan to do a writeup about it, and the experience of developing for old macs, once I finish the 1.0 release edit: btw, this is my first project for the classic Mac OS, I hope to inspire others to also jump in, retro68 is a very usable toolchain (big thanks to Wolfgang Thaller/autc04)

callinyouin 5y ago
This is so cool. I've been wanting to pick up an older mac for the sole purpose of doing some programming on classic MacOS myself. I actually have a Macintosh SE, but it's a bit too underpowered for my tastes. Anyway, I was hoping you might be willing to share what your development environment looks like. Language, editor, etc. Thanks! Edit: I think I started to reply before your edit. Retro68 sounds amazing!
- cy384 5y ago
  if you want to go period-appropriate, you can run Macintosh Programmer's Workshop or CodeWarrior natively I use retro68 on linux, which is a modern GCC toolchain, so it's just like developing any other C/C++ (well, without some nice debugging tools, and with the added complexity of the mac OS resource stuff) https://github.com/autc04/Retro68/ https://github.com/autc04/Retro68/
Aloha 5y ago
Sorry for posting it before you were ready! I just thought it was really cool, and I thought getting you some more eyeshare might be useful in helping you find more folks wanting to work on it.
- cy384 5y ago
  it's no problem, the killer feature (that it works at all, and can connect to modern servers with default configs) is solid, and more people using it will help flush out bugs
tikwidd 5y ago
I would love to read your writeup if you get around to it.
tikwidd 5y ago
So far it's working well on my LC III (68030 with 36mb ram)! I'm writing this comment from the LC III using w3m over ssh :)
- txdv 5y ago
  36mb ram? that is a like a power house!
  - phire 5y ago
    It's maxed out, 4MB onboard + a single 32MB SIMM. I think my own LC III has either 12MB or 20MB.
  - rvense 5y ago
    LC III is a real sleeper. It's much better than the previous in the series. The case is great to work with, it's small, runs cool (if you replace the hard drive it should be no problem to remove the fan), and is faster than any compact. And it takes the 36MB RAM.
azinman2 5y ago
I’d love to hear more about retro68, your experience finding documentation for the various APIs. Stackoverlow didn’t exist when these APIs were in use.
- rjsw 5y ago
  Apple used to produce good paper documentation, my stack of Inside Macintosh is on the floor behind me.
icedchai 5y ago
Cool project! I installed it onto my SE/30 with 16 megs of RAM. The machine is mostly a museum piece but its neat to be able to connect to modern systems from it.

by cy384 5y ago

callinyouin 5y ago

This is so cool. I've been wanting to pick up an older mac for the sole purpose of doing some programming on classic MacOS myself. I actually have a Macintosh SE, but it's a bit too underpowered for my tastes. Anyway, I was hoping you might be willing to share what your development environment looks like. Language, editor, etc. Thanks! Edit: I think I started to reply before your edit. Retro68 sounds amazing!

cy384 5y ago
if you want to go period-appropriate, you can run Macintosh Programmer's Workshop or CodeWarrior natively I use retro68 on linux, which is a modern GCC toolchain, so it's just like developing any other C/C++ (well, without some nice debugging tools, and with the added complexity of the mac OS resource stuff) https://github.com/autc04/Retro68/ https://github.com/autc04/Retro68/

Aloha 5y ago

Sorry for posting it before you were ready! I just thought it was really cool, and I thought getting you some more eyeshare might be useful in helping you find more folks wanting to work on it.

cy384 5y ago
it's no problem, the killer feature (that it works at all, and can connect to modern servers with default configs) is solid, and more people using it will help flush out bugs

tikwidd 5y ago

I would love to read your writeup if you get around to it.

tikwidd 5y ago

So far it's working well on my LC III (68030 with 36mb ram)! I'm writing this comment from the LC III using w3m over ssh :)

txdv 5y ago
36mb ram? that is a like a power house!
- phire 5y ago
  It's maxed out, 4MB onboard + a single 32MB SIMM. I think my own LC III has either 12MB or 20MB.
- rvense 5y ago
  LC III is a real sleeper. It's much better than the previous in the series. The case is great to work with, it's small, runs cool (if you replace the hard drive it should be no problem to remove the fan), and is faster than any compact. And it takes the 36MB RAM.

azinman2 5y ago

I’d love to hear more about retro68, your experience finding documentation for the various APIs. Stackoverlow didn’t exist when these APIs were in use.

rjsw 5y ago
Apple used to produce good paper documentation, my stack of Inside Macintosh is on the floor behind me.

icedchai 5y ago

Cool project! I installed it onto my SE/30 with 16 megs of RAM. The machine is mostly a museum piece but its neat to be able to connect to modern systems from it.