6 ms·
Nokia XR20 Mobile
- joshtam 5y agoGosh, I want Nokia to come back to the smartphone game so much. Especially with their crazy unique cameras! Does anyone remember the N95 and how revolutionary it was with its 8GB tiny spinning hard drive?
- pjmlp 5y agoWell, my Nokia 7+ has served me quite well.
- CodeGlitch 5y agoThey have been in the smartphone game for a few years now. What made you think they weren't?
- rchaud 5y agoNokia could make crazy devices like the N95 and others because they had their own factories and supply chain back then. HMD buys off-the-shelf components from Samsung, Sony and others and makes mid-range phones that are indistinguishable from most Chinese and Indian OEMs, who are using the same parts. And even then, their best features seem to be going away. My Nokia x6 in 2018 came with a stock version of Android. This one has a free trial of Spotify and ExpressVPN, i.e. bloatware.
- luismedel 5y ago"Nokia XR20 is designed for the long run. A phone that can stand up to anything life throws at it [...] with up to 3 years of OS upgrades and 4 years of monthly security updates, so your phone will be up to date into 2025. And because you’ll be using it longer, it’s better for the environment." So, you end with users running an unpatched life-centric device for years after 2025. That's better for the environment...and for the ransomgangs.
- Reason077 5y agoAs a point of comparison, the nearly 6-year old iPhone 6s is still getting updates to the latest iOS versions, including the upcoming iOS 15. And the nearly 8-year old iPhone 5s is still getting security updates.
- genocidicbunny 5y agoIs it really that much of a comparison? I think a more fair comparison would be an Android device with a similar update horizon. As far as I am aware, no such Android phone exists.
- cyberpsybin 5y agoUpdates that slow down the phone. Apple has built planned obsolescence into the phone. Good luck repairing an iphone.
- ekianjo 5y ago> the nearly 6-year old iPhone 6s How is the 6 years (non-user replaceable) old battery holding up?
- Reason077 5y agoIt's true that the batteries don't last 6 years, but they are perfectly user-replaceable for someone with moderate technical skills and a few basic tools. Here's a kit that has everything you need: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/iPhone/iPhone-6s-Battery/IF314-011?o=10 https://www.ifixit.com/Store/iPhone/iPhone-6s-Battery/IF314-... Otherwise, Apple will replace the battery for $49 while you wait: https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/battery-power https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/battery-powe...
- rolleiflex 5y agoMind that this is not Nokia producing this phone, but a company called ‘HMD Global Oy’ as visible in the cookie warning and the space below the footer that the cookie warning covers. They’re just licensing the Nokia name. Considering this phone heavily advertises its long term support, it is pertinent to point out that the producer of this phone is not, in fact, Nokia, and its real producer has not yet stood the test of time.
- wayvey 5y agoHMD Global has been making phones under the Nokia brand for years now. They're not going to disappear in 6 months.
- pjmlp 5y agoMany of the former Nokia Mobiles employees are also part of HMD Global Oy, and so far they have been the best Android phone experience outside the overpriced Pixels, impossible to buy in most European countries.
- rchaud 5y agoMicrosoft hollowed out what was left of Nokia years ago. HMD has been making phones under the Nokia name since 2017. Nokia is now a boring telecom infrastructure company like Ericsson. When Microsoft killed the Windows Phone brand altogether, a number of engineers left for HMD and Jolla.
- ekianjo 5y agoSo: > better for the environment, lasts 5 years and: > Battery type: Non Removable You can't really live up to your bold claims, can you?
- toper-centage 5y agoI think no company has yet figured out how to make affordable waterproof phones that are also user serviceable. The moment you open your phone, you destroy the adhesives and say goodbye to IPS6. Watch makers have solved this problem long ago, is it just not scalable for bigger devices?
- captainmuon 5y agoGaskets are hardly a new technology. And even if that is not sufficient, there are silicon glues that you can just apply like caulk, then put the parts together and wipe of the excess with a bit of IPA. But then I guess you still have visible creases and screws, so it won't look so good. (Source: working at a company that makes IP65 touch devices for industrial uses).
- ekianjo 5y agoI don't care about waterproof phones. At least give me the choice between models that have it or not.
- artificialidiot 5y agoI used my E6 for almost ten years (replaced the battery once). 3~4 years is just the life of the lithium battery. Nowadays it is the software's fault that perfectly serviceable devices are out of use. I give about 1½ years before they give up.
- CodeGlitch 5y agoNokia phones guarantee 3 years of OS and security updates.
- rchaud 5y agoTrue, I have had my Galaxy S7 since 2016 and the battery conks out after about 2-3 hours of use (Youtube, web browsing, Reddit). I keep it around for the small form factor, which is useful to test websites on.
- captainmuon 5y agoIn my experience, the harder and more scratch resistant the glass the easier it shatters. Maybe the more sustainable option would be to have normal glass or some kind of plastic that you can easily replace every 1-2 years? I guess it is a hard problem though since for phones the glas is usually bonded to the touch sensor and the LCD. Maybe you can make the screen protector a first-class citizen. Also I'm not a huge fan that every capacitive touch screen is glossy. The anti-glare coating doesn't really work well for me. You can get matted displays (for example car GPSes often have them), but they have a diffusor that reduces the visual quality. I think it would be nice to try a non-matted, but non-glossed display like what you have on certain desktop monitors. Then you could also try other top cover materials instead of gorilla glass.
- CodeGlitch 5y agoMy observation is slightly different: Phones made from metal (ie iPhones and high-end androids) tend to be the ones with shattered screens. My cheap plastic phones will bend and bounce when I drop them, as in the energy of the drop doesn't go into the screen.
- captainmuon 5y agoYes, you're probably right. I've had two all-glass or glass with metal trim phones break from a very small height (falling out of my pocket on a small stool). There is no where for the energy to go. I wonder if there is a way to put a crumple zone into the phone? The hardened glass by itself is probably fine.
- 1MachineElf 5y agoAll the features I wanted and a 3.5mm headphone jack...
- rchaud 5y agoI will always support a phone that keeps the jack; my current Samsung has one as well. That said, I was wearing wired headphones recently while cooking and it was a shock reminder of how easily they get snagged on things around the house! Incredibly frustrating when it happens. I've been using BT headphones for nearly a decade, so I had forgotten the sensation. Of course, this is a moot point if you're seated. Then, a good pair of wired headphones probably provided way better SQ.
- CodeGlitch 5y ago£400 in the UK: https://www.clove.co.uk/products/nokia-xr20?variant=39417134252075 https://www.clove.co.uk/products/nokia-xr20?variant=39417134...
- melicoy 5y agoI do hope that this phone will be their breakthrough product. They used to be the monopoly of the phone industry yet fell off since the rise of the smartphone era.