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Since Cutts isn't at liberty to say I think I'll take this one for him. This guy did really dumb stuff with Adwords or Adsense and got caught. Everyone wants a

by BonesLF 15y ago

Since Cutts isn't at liberty to say I think I'll take this one for him. This guy did really dumb stuff with Adwords or Adsense and got caught. Everyone wants a piece of the Google pie and Google wants no one to have it too easily, or their integrity goes to the shitter. Think about what you could do with a tiny bit of programming knowledge and keyword knowledge to make money using these service. Then try it and get banned. Cutts works all day to ban guys like this. He's less webspam hall monitor than he is the "Ad Sheriff". The internet, and Google, is the Wild Wild West. The only thing stopping people from scraping cash from Google and other ad networks are people like him. And their algos of course. Sorry your account got banned bro. You just got tased by the cops. Next time don't ask questions about Skull and Bones and deliver good content instead, as Cutts always says. /opinion

ajays 15y ago
Even assuming the OP pulled some stunt with AdWords (and this is just an assumption that you're putting forth, without any evidence whatsoever), does it justify wiping out that guy's entire online existence? His photos? His emails? His documents? This is like sentencing someone to death for shoplifting. GMail, Picasa, etc. are not about AdWords; they're a means for people to connect with each other. Unless, of course, Google is agreeing that you are indeed a product and not a user.
- ajays 15y ago
  Wow. A bunch of Google fanboys voting me down for stating something rational, but that just happens to be anti-Google. I just started using G+ (mainly because I'd like there to be a strong competitor to FB), but Google's antics give me cause for concern. I'd hate to get "hacked" some day and have Google completely wipe out every bit I have with them.
  - Pewpewarrows 15y ago
    You can download your data from Google anytime: http://www.google.com/takeout/ http://www.google.com/takeout/ When you sign-up for a Google account, there's a little something called a Terms of Service you agree to. You violate them? You sacrifice all rights to any data you may or may not have on their services. That's something every Google user agrees to from day one. If you don't like that punishment, you shouldn't have signed up.
    - dwwoelfel 15y ago
      * If you don't like that punishment, you shouldn't have signed up.* Alternatively, we could make arguments for why that is a bad idea, post them on a public forum, and hope that Google sees it.
    - cynope 15y ago
      > You can download your data from Google anytime: http://www.google.com/takeout/ http://www.google.com/takeout/ +1's, buzz, contacts, picasa and my +1 posts? That's less than 10 % of the data I have with Google.
      - puredemo 15y ago
        Seriously. Are they even being serious with that?
        Matt_Cutts 15y ago
        I believe Takeout launched with Google+, so it's geared toward data in Google+ (at least initially).
    - drewvolpe 15y ago
      This doesn't include the most important service: GMail.
      - Matt_Cutts 15y ago
        I believe Takeout launched with Google+, so it's geared toward data in Google+ (at least initially). Here's a post I did about backing up data in Gmail a while back: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/backup-gmail-in-linux-with-getmail/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/backup-gmail-in-linux-with-get... This post has info about backing up other data from a Google account: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/not-trapping-users-data-good/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/not-trapping-users-data-good/
        15y ago
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- Matt_Cutts 15y ago
  As we can discuss now, it wasn't regarding AdWords or anything like that, it was about potential child pornography: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bvqdos http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bvqdos The person whose account was suspended said "I too found the image bordering on the limits of what is legally permissible and hoped to highlight the fact that it is allowed to exist within a grey area of legality."
j_philipp 15y ago
> This guy did really dumb stuff with Adwords or Adsense and got caught. If that were the case then why can't Google disclose this to him when they close his account? (And perhaps, though this is a separate issue, then even give him a chance to defend his position -- you know, like they do in The Real World?)
m8urn 15y ago
When someone violates adwords and adsense TOS they don't get everything banned, just access to those services. In fact I think that is the case with many Google services. I once had an unused youtube account banned for an unknown reason but everything else worked. It is curious that they would shut down all of his accounts.
thomasmonopoly 15y ago
hey pal, i'm not going to go around righting every one of you people who thinks they know what they are talking about. but since i'm here anyway, even though i already said this, i don't know a goddam thing about google adsense or adwords. period. i wouldn't know how to make money from scamming google even i wanted to.
Devilboy 15y ago
He has now publicly stated that he is not and has never been an Adwords or Adsense client. Any other theories?

by BonesLF 15y ago

ajays 15y ago

Even assuming the OP pulled some stunt with AdWords (and this is just an assumption that you're putting forth, without any evidence whatsoever), does it justify wiping out that guy's entire online existence? His photos? His emails? His documents? This is like sentencing someone to death for shoplifting. GMail, Picasa, etc. are not about AdWords; they're a means for people to connect with each other. Unless, of course, Google is agreeing that you are indeed a product and not a user.

ajays 15y ago
Wow. A bunch of Google fanboys voting me down for stating something rational, but that just happens to be anti-Google. I just started using G+ (mainly because I'd like there to be a strong competitor to FB), but Google's antics give me cause for concern. I'd hate to get "hacked" some day and have Google completely wipe out every bit I have with them.
- Pewpewarrows 15y ago
  You can download your data from Google anytime: http://www.google.com/takeout/ http://www.google.com/takeout/ When you sign-up for a Google account, there's a little something called a Terms of Service you agree to. You violate them? You sacrifice all rights to any data you may or may not have on their services. That's something every Google user agrees to from day one. If you don't like that punishment, you shouldn't have signed up.
  - dwwoelfel 15y ago
    * If you don't like that punishment, you shouldn't have signed up.* Alternatively, we could make arguments for why that is a bad idea, post them on a public forum, and hope that Google sees it.
  - cynope 15y ago
    > You can download your data from Google anytime: http://www.google.com/takeout/ http://www.google.com/takeout/ +1's, buzz, contacts, picasa and my +1 posts? That's less than 10 % of the data I have with Google.
    - puredemo 15y ago
      Seriously. Are they even being serious with that?
      - Matt_Cutts 15y ago
        I believe Takeout launched with Google+, so it's geared toward data in Google+ (at least initially).
  - drewvolpe 15y ago
    This doesn't include the most important service: GMail.
    - Matt_Cutts 15y ago
      I believe Takeout launched with Google+, so it's geared toward data in Google+ (at least initially). Here's a post I did about backing up data in Gmail a while back: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/backup-gmail-in-linux-with-getmail/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/backup-gmail-in-linux-with-get... This post has info about backing up other data from a Google account: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/not-trapping-users-data-good/ http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/not-trapping-users-data-good/
      - 15y ago
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Matt_Cutts 15y ago
As we can discuss now, it wasn't regarding AdWords or anything like that, it was about potential child pornography: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bvqdos http://www.twitlonger.com/show/bvqdos The person whose account was suspended said "I too found the image bordering on the limits of what is legally permissible and hoped to highlight the fact that it is allowed to exist within a grey area of legality."

j_philipp 15y ago

> This guy did really dumb stuff with Adwords or Adsense and got caught. If that were the case then why can't Google disclose this to him when they close his account? (And perhaps, though this is a separate issue, then even give him a chance to defend his position -- you know, like they do in The Real World?)

m8urn 15y ago

When someone violates adwords and adsense TOS they don't get everything banned, just access to those services. In fact I think that is the case with many Google services. I once had an unused youtube account banned for an unknown reason but everything else worked. It is curious that they would shut down all of his accounts.

thomasmonopoly 15y ago

hey pal, i'm not going to go around righting every one of you people who thinks they know what they are talking about. but since i'm here anyway, even though i already said this, i don't know a goddam thing about google adsense or adwords. period. i wouldn't know how to make money from scamming google even i wanted to.

Devilboy 15y ago

He has now publicly stated that he is not and has never been an Adwords or Adsense client. Any other theories?