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What other comparable developed countries are there ? Australia had it's own isolation thing so it's a different context entirely. Russia had vacation faster,

What other comparable developed countries are there ? Australia had it's own isolation thing so it's a different context entirely. Russia had vacation faster, China as well.

ginko 5y ago
Japan and South Korea for instance, but what's your point?
- reader_mode 5y ago
  That some EU members had deals for faster delivery and got overturned by EU causing a worse situation for those countries, just like UK would if it was a part of EU. Von der Leyen even said so herself, and she still believes it was the right thing to do to stifle the big countries in order to maintain the EU.
  - ginko 5y ago
    If Germany or the Netherlands decided to ban exports on vaccines they'd probably have had the highest vaccination rates on the planet. But that would just be selfish. Stifling big countries in favor of a fair distribution of vaccines WAS the right thing. What if some US state with most of the vaccine manufacturing had stopped the export of vaccine over state borders? Would that be fine by you because it's in their self interest?
- 3np 5y ago
  Hardly Japan (it being a disconnected island nation)
_fizz_buzz_ 5y ago
Norway, Canada, Switzerland etc.
throwaway473825 5y ago
> Russia had vacation faster, China as well. No, they did not. Here's a site where you can see the share of people vaccinated against COVID-19: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
rsynnott 5y ago
> Russia had vacation faster, China as well. ... Wait, what makes you think that? Per OurWorldInData, except for a brief period in early January, EU total doses per capita have always been ahead of Russia and China, until June, when China drew ahead (Russia is still _far_ behind). And even then, that wasn't supply-driven; if you consider EU countries with high vaccine acceptance (Ireland, Germany, Denmark etc), those are still ahead of China; China overtook the EU as a whole due to vaccine reluctance in parts of the EU.

What other comparable developed countries are there ? Australia had it's own isolation thing so it's a different context entirely. Russia had vacation faster, China as well.

ginko 5y ago

Japan and South Korea for instance, but what's your point?

reader_mode 5y ago
That some EU members had deals for faster delivery and got overturned by EU causing a worse situation for those countries, just like UK would if it was a part of EU. Von der Leyen even said so herself, and she still believes it was the right thing to do to stifle the big countries in order to maintain the EU.
- ginko 5y ago
  If Germany or the Netherlands decided to ban exports on vaccines they'd probably have had the highest vaccination rates on the planet. But that would just be selfish. Stifling big countries in favor of a fair distribution of vaccines WAS the right thing. What if some US state with most of the vaccine manufacturing had stopped the export of vaccine over state borders? Would that be fine by you because it's in their self interest?
3np 5y ago
Hardly Japan (it being a disconnected island nation)

_fizz_buzz_ 5y ago

Norway, Canada, Switzerland etc.

throwaway473825 5y ago

> Russia had vacation faster, China as well. No, they did not. Here's a site where you can see the share of people vaccinated against COVID-19: https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

rsynnott 5y ago

> Russia had vacation faster, China as well. ... Wait, what makes you think that? Per OurWorldInData, except for a brief period in early January, EU total doses per capita have always been ahead of Russia and China, until June, when China drew ahead (Russia is still _far_ behind). And even then, that wasn't supply-driven; if you consider EU countries with high vaccine acceptance (Ireland, Germany, Denmark etc), those are still ahead of China; China overtook the EU as a whole due to vaccine reluctance in parts of the EU.