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There's a significant difference between removing a subreddits from /r/all and banning it from the site. Besides, you can go to /r/randomnsfw and pretty much on

There's a significant difference between removing a subreddits from /r/all and banning it from the site. Besides, you can go to /r/randomnsfw and pretty much only see pornographic subreddits. Or search for them on the subreddits search. They've not gone anywhere, and are still well catered to by the administration.

criley2 5y ago
You're being disingenuous. It's a massive move that will dramatically lower the traffic to the subreddits, and was also done to the far-right supremacist and abuse subreddits before they were finally closed. It's the largest "anti-male-gaze" move possible without total sitewide banning. But you set yourself a trap with the "well catered to by the administration" because you've defined this situation such that "catered to" is the equivalent of "done literally everything but gone nuclear with a full ban". So now I can easily point to the continued existence of outright neo-nazism, white supremacy, civil war idealism, violent right-wing rhetoric, terrorism support, and other radical examples of "normal conservative dialogue" on reddit and easily claim that neo-nazis terrorists are "well catered to by the administration" by virtue of the fact that they exist at all and are not banned.
- fffffffg 5y ago
  If you search for a quarantined subreddit (i.e. one that is actually a step away from being banned) on the subreddit search, it won't show in the results. If you search for a NSFW subreddit, it will show in the results. Porn subreddits are easily discoverable, and not even close to being banned. (Try it yourself: https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=asshole&include_over_18=on https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=asshole&include_o... versus https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=911truth&include_over_18=on https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=911truth&include_... - you'll see it's not possible to find /r/911truth in the latter search.)
handoflixue 5y ago
To show that the male gaze is MORE important than female speech, you have to show that there's actually a tradeoff happening. AWS hosting porn doesn't degrade their ability to also host important feminist content. Why does the existence of porn subs degrade the value of feminist subs?
- fffffffg 5y ago
  It's the double standard being applied.

criley2 5y ago

You're being disingenuous. It's a massive move that will dramatically lower the traffic to the subreddits, and was also done to the far-right supremacist and abuse subreddits before they were finally closed. It's the largest "anti-male-gaze" move possible without total sitewide banning. But you set yourself a trap with the "well catered to by the administration" because you've defined this situation such that "catered to" is the equivalent of "done literally everything but gone nuclear with a full ban". So now I can easily point to the continued existence of outright neo-nazism, white supremacy, civil war idealism, violent right-wing rhetoric, terrorism support, and other radical examples of "normal conservative dialogue" on reddit and easily claim that neo-nazis terrorists are "well catered to by the administration" by virtue of the fact that they exist at all and are not banned.

fffffffg 5y ago
If you search for a quarantined subreddit (i.e. one that is actually a step away from being banned) on the subreddit search, it won't show in the results. If you search for a NSFW subreddit, it will show in the results. Porn subreddits are easily discoverable, and not even close to being banned. (Try it yourself: https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=asshole&include_over_18=on https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=asshole&include_o... versus https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=911truth&include_over_18=on https://old.reddit.com/subreddits/search?q=911truth&include_... - you'll see it's not possible to find /r/911truth in the latter search.)

handoflixue 5y ago

To show that the male gaze is MORE important than female speech, you have to show that there's actually a tradeoff happening. AWS hosting porn doesn't degrade their ability to also host important feminist content. Why does the existence of porn subs degrade the value of feminist subs?

fffffffg 5y ago
It's the double standard being applied.