From you > They had guns, nooses, there were chat logs, etc. This is not conjecture. Stop trying to wiggle out of this. You said armed with guns. Don't try

From you > They had guns, nooses, there were chat logs, etc. This is not conjecture. Stop trying to wiggle out of this. You said armed with guns. Don't try and move this over suddenly to "Clubs" because your bs has been called.