6 ms·

> because I can do it without the anxiety of uncertainty of the outcome That's like saying you're fine driving at 90mph in the rain because Jesus is on your si

> because I can do it without the anxiety of uncertainty of the outcome That's like saying you're fine driving at 90mph in the rain because Jesus is on your side. You're choosing to not feel the true weight of your responsibility because it's easier to just "have faith" that Jesus will take the wheel. That doesn't sound strictly better at all, that sounds irresponsible and immature.

xyzelement 5y ago
You are intentionally misunderstanding but I will explain for others. To correct your analogy: We have a destination in mind. We know it's down this dark and rainy road. I can't foresee every twist and turn on this road and I am able to be at peace with that. This makes me a better driver because I am able to focus my heart and soul and energy on the road on front of me, without being distracted by what I don't and can't know. I control the controllable and I know the knowable - and I do that no less well than when I was areligious. The difference is now I give no thought to the uncontrollable and unknowable - that's on G-ds hands. I focus on what's in mine.
- tetranomiga 5y ago
  > You are intentionally misunderstanding I can't misunderstand what doesn't make any sense. > We have a destination in mind. We know it's down this dark and rainy road. I can't foresee every twist and turn on this road and I am able to be at peace with that. When people say "they're at peace" with things like this in the context of religion, it usually means they've replaced the importance of the here and now with valuing the beyond and the ephemeral. Things in the here and now just aren't that important because God or Jesus will take care of things. I would argue that being at peace when you're in danger, driving down a dark and rainy road, would make you a much worse hypothetical driver. To be a bit snarky, I for one wouldn't want my driver thinking in the back of his mind that if we all die in a crash, it's no big deal because it was God's plan anyways. You're gonna say that that's not what you do, but that peace has to come from somewhere, and from what you've been saying it sure sounds an awful lot like the peace comes from absolving yourself of responsibility for things that you can't control, even if they are still your responsibility to handle.

xyzelement 5y ago

You are intentionally misunderstanding but I will explain for others. To correct your analogy: We have a destination in mind. We know it's down this dark and rainy road. I can't foresee every twist and turn on this road and I am able to be at peace with that. This makes me a better driver because I am able to focus my heart and soul and energy on the road on front of me, without being distracted by what I don't and can't know. I control the controllable and I know the knowable - and I do that no less well than when I was areligious. The difference is now I give no thought to the uncontrollable and unknowable - that's on G-ds hands. I focus on what's in mine.

tetranomiga 5y ago
> You are intentionally misunderstanding I can't misunderstand what doesn't make any sense. > We have a destination in mind. We know it's down this dark and rainy road. I can't foresee every twist and turn on this road and I am able to be at peace with that. When people say "they're at peace" with things like this in the context of religion, it usually means they've replaced the importance of the here and now with valuing the beyond and the ephemeral. Things in the here and now just aren't that important because God or Jesus will take care of things. I would argue that being at peace when you're in danger, driving down a dark and rainy road, would make you a much worse hypothetical driver. To be a bit snarky, I for one wouldn't want my driver thinking in the back of his mind that if we all die in a crash, it's no big deal because it was God's plan anyways. You're gonna say that that's not what you do, but that peace has to come from somewhere, and from what you've been saying it sure sounds an awful lot like the peace comes from absolving yourself of responsibility for things that you can't control, even if they are still your responsibility to handle.