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Unless, in certain cases one law overrules another even thought the two are completely separate. Case in point: https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=139484910

Unless, in certain cases one law overrules another even thought the two are completely separate. Case in point: https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=139484910828&topic=14656 https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=139484910828&topi... Note: I am not concerned with immigration, but de-facto denial of basic rights and discrimination on the basis of nationality in cases where those rights are basic human rights, and not privileges granted by the state.

_delirium 15y ago
This particular linked case appears inextricably tied up with immigration, though. The person in question isn't alleging that he's being denied rights in any manner other than via the fact that he isn't allowed to legally live in the US. That's a bit different from the question of whether non-citizens caught up in the U.S. legal system (in either a criminal or civil case) have the same rights during the proceedings as citizens do.
- baltcode 15y ago
  The state should enforce visitation and joint custody rights. Whether it is by giving the foreigner a right to stay in the US, or by enabling and enforcing the travel of the child is up to the US government. I think that will be fair enough for those foreigners who are citizens of another country. It is slightly more complicated for refugees or stateless people, but it still should be on similar lines. Anything less is a travesty of human rights and justice. Japan gets a lot of flak for their policies on this issue, but it should be dealt with in all countries and for all people, including illegal immigrants, deported people or unpopular groups because while the state or people can choose to deport someone, they shouldn't ever be able to steal your kids. The post I linked to seemed to be using it as an immigration issue. That is not what I am arguing though.

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Unless, in certain cases one law overrules another even thought the two are completely separate. Case in point: https://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=139484910

by baltcode 15y ago

_delirium 15y ago
This particular linked case appears inextricably tied up with immigration, though. The person in question isn't alleging that he's being denied rights in any manner other than via the fact that he isn't allowed to legally live in the US. That's a bit different from the question of whether non-citizens caught up in the U.S. legal system (in either a criminal or civil case) have the same rights during the proceedings as citizens do.
- baltcode 15y ago
  The state should enforce visitation and joint custody rights. Whether it is by giving the foreigner a right to stay in the US, or by enabling and enforcing the travel of the child is up to the US government. I think that will be fair enough for those foreigners who are citizens of another country. It is slightly more complicated for refugees or stateless people, but it still should be on similar lines. Anything less is a travesty of human rights and justice. Japan gets a lot of flak for their policies on this issue, but it should be dealt with in all countries and for all people, including illegal immigrants, deported people or unpopular groups because while the state or people can choose to deport someone, they shouldn't ever be able to steal your kids. The post I linked to seemed to be using it as an immigration issue. That is not what I am arguing though.