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I think Microsoft is smarter than that, look at Github for example, people have largely forgotten it's owned by MSFT. They would have left Discord as a gaming p

I think Microsoft is smarter than that, look at Github for example, people have largely forgotten it's owned by MSFT. They would have left Discord as a gaming platform and used it's tech in Teams instead. Teams is so behind Discord in all areas except video quality.

adflux 5y ago
What fields are that exactly?
- russellendicott 5y ago
  Teams chat is awful: - Trying to figure out how to do code snippets and inline code is madness. - You can't copy and paste whole conversations. - Integrations/bots are awful and make you realize the whole thing is built on some ancient Sharepoint SOAP API. - Mobile app on Android whacks out frequently and has to do the blinky reload chat 19 times before the screen settles down. A lot of my other gripes are probably due to enterprise issues but I'll mention them anyway: - Can't create my own channels. - can't be on my company Teams on a call and switch to Microsoft's server to talk to a TAM without dropping the call.
selimthegrim 5y ago
Has there been an exodus of talent from Github if they are leveling salaries?
- Rapzid 5y ago
  Probably an influx of talent. They suddenly started shipping stuff after the acquisition..
  - sascha_sl 5y ago
    Very poorly polished stuff, to be honest. Before, they always seemed to take great care in making their core product (and the API for it) great. The only thing I can think of that was similarly unpolished was GitHub Enterprise.
  - selimthegrim 5y ago
    I wonder if that extends to their data org...
sascha_sl 5y ago
I don't think GitHub staff has forgotten. Actions are straight up Azure Pipelines. The code is a huge mess. If I didn't know better I'd say it's obscured by design. Check out the actions/runner repo if you don't believe me. They polished them very well for the hosted version, but the cracks show if you try to use the self-hosted version. I can't believe anyone at GitHub is particularly thrilled about having a Microsoft technology that broken imposed on them.

adflux 5y ago

What fields are that exactly?

russellendicott 5y ago
Teams chat is awful: - Trying to figure out how to do code snippets and inline code is madness. - You can't copy and paste whole conversations. - Integrations/bots are awful and make you realize the whole thing is built on some ancient Sharepoint SOAP API. - Mobile app on Android whacks out frequently and has to do the blinky reload chat 19 times before the screen settles down. A lot of my other gripes are probably due to enterprise issues but I'll mention them anyway: - Can't create my own channels. - can't be on my company Teams on a call and switch to Microsoft's server to talk to a TAM without dropping the call.

selimthegrim 5y ago

Has there been an exodus of talent from Github if they are leveling salaries?

Rapzid 5y ago
Probably an influx of talent. They suddenly started shipping stuff after the acquisition..
- sascha_sl 5y ago
  Very poorly polished stuff, to be honest. Before, they always seemed to take great care in making their core product (and the API for it) great. The only thing I can think of that was similarly unpolished was GitHub Enterprise.
- selimthegrim 5y ago
  I wonder if that extends to their data org...

sascha_sl 5y ago

I don't think GitHub staff has forgotten. Actions are straight up Azure Pipelines. The code is a huge mess. If I didn't know better I'd say it's obscured by design. Check out the actions/runner repo if you don't believe me. They polished them very well for the hosted version, but the cracks show if you try to use the self-hosted version. I can't believe anyone at GitHub is particularly thrilled about having a Microsoft technology that broken imposed on them.