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Ask YC: accounting help

11 points by codilechasseur 18y ago

For those of you with small home based businesses or a business on the side. How do you keep track of invoicing and payables/receivables? I'm using Quicken Home and Business 2008 and it's nice and all, but I just want to invoice and know what's outstanding etc.. I don't need to micro manage an investment portfolio or know what the interest on $10 is going to be in 5 years. An online solution would be ok. Better if it combines my home and business together.

tonystubblebine 18y ago
I use blinksale and love it for invoicing. Not sure if that covers all your needs.
brk 18y ago
Quickbooks. It's almost a small-business industry standard. The nice thing is every small accounting firm or contractor I've ever come across knows Quickbooks. This means you can often email them your accounting "database" to have them do a sanity check or cleanup remotely. Makes it easy to collaborate without having to pay for on-site consulting time. I have personally used Quickbooks on startups through the first few million in revenue. BTW, your "home" and "business" worlds are completely separate. Don't commingle them.
- hbien 18y ago
  I'm on a Mac, and I've heard a lot of complaints that Quickbooks can't transfer data back and forth between Mac/Window machines. I imagine a lot of accountants use Windows.
  - brk 18y ago
    I'm on a Mac also, and thankfully haven't had to worry about this for the last few years :) And yeah, I've never met an accountant on Windows. I'm OS agnostic, I prefer to use what I think is the best solution for the problem. With that in mind, it might be worthwhile to look into a windows machine to run QB. You can rdesktop to it (there is a great rdesktop app for the Mac), and when you get to the point of having a part-time accounting person come in, the PC will already be all set up for their use. This is what I did in the past (dedicated low-end PC for "hosting" QB).
    - donw 18y ago
      I think there's a lot more mileage in running Windows under VMWare Fusion or Parallels, than in having an entire machine dedicated to doing nothing but running Quickbooks. Might help the balance sheet out... :)
  - gcv 18y ago
    Would running a Windows VM work for you? VMware Fusion is a terrific product.
    - sachinag 18y ago
      Yeah, I'm running Quickbooks on my Parallels partition. If you ever need to go to the next level - i.e. have someone else take over accounting from you - you should really run a Windows Quickbooks install. It's not worth the headache to try anything else.
jbrun 18y ago
using harvest for invoicing, probably going to get quickbooks for the rest - seems to be the standard.
fnazeeri 18y ago
Quickbooks is the only way to go. The fact that you already use Quicken will help you in getting up to speed. Also, definitely go for the online service Quicken offers (as opposed to the shrink wrapped s/w.
subwindow 18y ago
Try to avoid Intuit (Quicken/Quickbooks). They have a monopoly, and it is unfair. I tried for a bit to compete with them, but the banks are complicit and it is impossible to provide proper account import functionality with the way things are now. That said, try Less Accounting (http://lessaccounting.com/ http://lessaccounting.com/) or Harvest.
- mechanical_fish 18y ago
  +1 for Harvest. I'm very fond of their service. I'm using them despite the fact that I also have Quickbooks for accounting.
- auston 18y ago
  +1 for less accounting, it's amazing.
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  Some people care much more about efficiency than your perception of fairness. For them, Quickbooks is a pretty clear answer. Ability to just hand it over to your accountant is a must.
jlogic77 18y ago
Without sounding like a broken record... Quickbooks. It's also easy to just give your accountant the qb file for taxes. I'd advise to stay with the non-online version. When I was looking at it awhile ago it didn't have everything I needed, also you always want access to your books.
thinkcomp 18y ago
QuickBooks isn't the only option. My startup makes this: http://www.thinkcomputer.com/software/exponent/enterprise.html http://www.thinkcomputer.com/software/exponent/enterprise.ht... and we use it to run everything. And it runs on Macs.
bradleyjoyce 18y ago
freshbooks?
madmotive 18y ago
http://freeagentcentral.com http://freeagentcentral.com is the best web based accounting system there is. I've used Freshbooks and Blinksale before but these guys handle almost all accounting needs end to end for a small business. Although primarily UK based they have a universal version that works world wide. They also have a beautiful API so we can fill in any gaps very easily ourselves and they're adding new features every week... and they are probably one of the top users of http://getsatisfaction.com http://getsatisfaction.com.
mightybyte 18y ago
On the open source side there's Gnucash. It's a full double-entry accounting package that I've used for years. It's been awhile since I've used any Intuit products, but Gnucash is working fine for me.

tonystubblebine 18y ago

I use blinksale and love it for invoicing. Not sure if that covers all your needs.

brk 18y ago

Quickbooks. It's almost a small-business industry standard. The nice thing is every small accounting firm or contractor I've ever come across knows Quickbooks. This means you can often email them your accounting "database" to have them do a sanity check or cleanup remotely. Makes it easy to collaborate without having to pay for on-site consulting time. I have personally used Quickbooks on startups through the first few million in revenue. BTW, your "home" and "business" worlds are completely separate. Don't commingle them.

hbien 18y ago
I'm on a Mac, and I've heard a lot of complaints that Quickbooks can't transfer data back and forth between Mac/Window machines. I imagine a lot of accountants use Windows.
- brk 18y ago
  I'm on a Mac also, and thankfully haven't had to worry about this for the last few years :) And yeah, I've never met an accountant on Windows. I'm OS agnostic, I prefer to use what I think is the best solution for the problem. With that in mind, it might be worthwhile to look into a windows machine to run QB. You can rdesktop to it (there is a great rdesktop app for the Mac), and when you get to the point of having a part-time accounting person come in, the PC will already be all set up for their use. This is what I did in the past (dedicated low-end PC for "hosting" QB).
  - donw 18y ago
    I think there's a lot more mileage in running Windows under VMWare Fusion or Parallels, than in having an entire machine dedicated to doing nothing but running Quickbooks. Might help the balance sheet out... :)
- gcv 18y ago
  Would running a Windows VM work for you? VMware Fusion is a terrific product.
  - sachinag 18y ago
    Yeah, I'm running Quickbooks on my Parallels partition. If you ever need to go to the next level - i.e. have someone else take over accounting from you - you should really run a Windows Quickbooks install. It's not worth the headache to try anything else.

jbrun 18y ago

using harvest for invoicing, probably going to get quickbooks for the rest - seems to be the standard.

fnazeeri 18y ago

Quickbooks is the only way to go. The fact that you already use Quicken will help you in getting up to speed. Also, definitely go for the online service Quicken offers (as opposed to the shrink wrapped s/w.

subwindow 18y ago

Try to avoid Intuit (Quicken/Quickbooks). They have a monopoly, and it is unfair. I tried for a bit to compete with them, but the banks are complicit and it is impossible to provide proper account import functionality with the way things are now. That said, try Less Accounting (http://lessaccounting.com/ http://lessaccounting.com/) or Harvest.

mechanical_fish 18y ago
+1 for Harvest. I'm very fond of their service. I'm using them despite the fact that I also have Quickbooks for accounting.
auston 18y ago
+1 for less accounting, it's amazing.
mattmaroon 18y ago
Some people care much more about efficiency than your perception of fairness. For them, Quickbooks is a pretty clear answer. Ability to just hand it over to your accountant is a must.

jlogic77 18y ago

Without sounding like a broken record... Quickbooks. It's also easy to just give your accountant the qb file for taxes. I'd advise to stay with the non-online version. When I was looking at it awhile ago it didn't have everything I needed, also you always want access to your books.

thinkcomp 18y ago

QuickBooks isn't the only option. My startup makes this: http://www.thinkcomputer.com/software/exponent/enterprise.html http://www.thinkcomputer.com/software/exponent/enterprise.ht... and we use it to run everything. And it runs on Macs.

bradleyjoyce 18y ago

freshbooks?

madmotive 18y ago

http://freeagentcentral.com http://freeagentcentral.com is the best web based accounting system there is. I've used Freshbooks and Blinksale before but these guys handle almost all accounting needs end to end for a small business. Although primarily UK based they have a universal version that works world wide. They also have a beautiful API so we can fill in any gaps very easily ourselves and they're adding new features every week... and they are probably one of the top users of http://getsatisfaction.com http://getsatisfaction.com.

mightybyte 18y ago

On the open source side there's Gnucash. It's a full double-entry accounting package that I've used for years. It's been awhile since I've used any Intuit products, but Gnucash is working fine for me.