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Because it will cost the taxpayer more?

smsm42 5y ago
The price of one webcam? I think somewhere in our multi-trillion-dollar budget there's a place for a webcam. But I am sure if that'd be the problem Amazon would gladly cover the price of the cam.
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- whatisthiseven 5y ago
  This is overly dismissive. A security camera must be agreed on, it's quality chosen, it's recording backed up, maybe someone watches it live and needs to be paid, they need somewhere to sit and monitors. All of these things are decision points that can be used to delay any vote. No one here is necessarily trustworthy, but the nlrb is a supposedly neutral organization and presumably has it's own security. Why add more? If you assume malicious actors will compromise one security layer why not all of them? You have to choose some cut off for security over cost and time. I don't think Amazon is arguing in good faith.
  - smsm42 5y ago
    > but the nlrb is a supposedly neutral organization You must be kidding me. NLRB has known pro-union bias, which becomes especially acute under Democratic administration (it was a bit different under Trump but that has passed). https://www.hrdefenseblog.com/2021/02/non-union-employers-beware-the-nlrb-pendulum-is-pushed-pro-union/ https://www.hrdefenseblog.com/2021/02/non-union-employers-be... https://www.nexsenpruet.com/insights/national-pro-union-policy-shift-has-begun https://www.nexsenpruet.com/insights/national-pro-union-poli... https://www.politicususa.com/2021/01/20/joe-biden-just-fired-trumps-anti-union-nlrb-lawyer.html https://www.politicususa.com/2021/01/20/joe-biden-just-fired... https://www.labordaysblog.com/2021/03/are-unions-primed-for-a-comeback/ https://www.labordaysblog.com/2021/03/are-unions-primed-for-... > You have to choose some cut off for security over cost and time Nobody asked for 2000 National Guard troops and Fort Knox security on it. What was asked for is one puny webcam. A school kid wouldn't have trouble setting it up. If anything isn't acting in good faith is pretending this is about costs.

The price of one webcam? I think somewhere in our multi-trillion-dollar budget there's a place for a webcam. But I am sure if that'd be the problem Amazon would gladly cover the price of the cam.

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whatisthiseven 5y ago
This is overly dismissive. A security camera must be agreed on, it's quality chosen, it's recording backed up, maybe someone watches it live and needs to be paid, they need somewhere to sit and monitors. All of these things are decision points that can be used to delay any vote. No one here is necessarily trustworthy, but the nlrb is a supposedly neutral organization and presumably has it's own security. Why add more? If you assume malicious actors will compromise one security layer why not all of them? You have to choose some cut off for security over cost and time. I don't think Amazon is arguing in good faith.
- smsm42 5y ago
  > but the nlrb is a supposedly neutral organization You must be kidding me. NLRB has known pro-union bias, which becomes especially acute under Democratic administration (it was a bit different under Trump but that has passed). https://www.hrdefenseblog.com/2021/02/non-union-employers-beware-the-nlrb-pendulum-is-pushed-pro-union/ https://www.hrdefenseblog.com/2021/02/non-union-employers-be... https://www.nexsenpruet.com/insights/national-pro-union-policy-shift-has-begun https://www.nexsenpruet.com/insights/national-pro-union-poli... https://www.politicususa.com/2021/01/20/joe-biden-just-fired-trumps-anti-union-nlrb-lawyer.html https://www.politicususa.com/2021/01/20/joe-biden-just-fired... https://www.labordaysblog.com/2021/03/are-unions-primed-for-a-comeback/ https://www.labordaysblog.com/2021/03/are-unions-primed-for-... > You have to choose some cut off for security over cost and time Nobody asked for 2000 National Guard troops and Fort Knox security on it. What was asked for is one puny webcam. A school kid wouldn't have trouble setting it up. If anything isn't acting in good faith is pretending this is about costs.