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"just live in peace with the other peoples" - Does this apply to people living in China?

ArkanExplorer 5y ago
Israel forcibly sterilised African migrants, where is the sanctions and pressure against them? https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=174e5e5d67b8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-... Illegal immigrants pushed out their homelands by Western military action in MENA toil for illegal wages across Southern Europe in farms like this: https://www.dw.com/en/spains-sea-of-plastic-where-europe-gets-its-produce-migrants-get-exploited/a-47824476 https://www.dw.com/en/spains-sea-of-plastic-where-europe-get... The USA has a racially-motivated drug criminalisation program, which fills prisons with people who then are forced to labour for below-market wages: https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263 How about we just let countries manage their own affairs instead of continually attempting to be World Police and stirring up conflict? I would prefer to buy from Chinese businesses and sell to Chinese consumers, with trade as free and least-taxed as possible, not go to war with them.
- oreally 5y ago
  Indeed. Double standards are common in global politics.
- Hnrobert42 5y ago
  Because the way China manages its affairs not only affects the Chinese people, but the rest of the world. Look no further than China’s encroachment on the territorial waters of the Philippines and other parts of the South China Sea. The financial advantages China gains by using forced labor, IP theft, and environmental damage provide China power which it uses to exert force on the rest of the world.
  - Omnitaus 5y ago
    The US owns 5 colonies iirc so by your argument we should be sanctioned
  - radmuzom 5y ago
    Given that Americans have committed more war crimes and human rights abuses than all other countries combined and has caused unimaginable destruction, pain and suffering in the world - I find it funny people complaining that China’s acrions are apparently affecting the world.
    - the_dune_13 5y ago
      I mean, WW2 still counts, right?
    - Hnrobert42 5y ago
      Two wrongs do not make a right. This FUD will not excuse China’s criminal behavior.
  - underseacables 5y ago
    China is still the single greatest threat to world peace, from Tiananmen Square to ethnic cleansing, the government of China is a despotic regime of murderers. Anything the west can do to combat this, it’s a good thing, and shame on any American brand that puts profits over human rights.
- the_dune_13 5y ago
  "let countries manage their own affairs instead of continually attempting to be World Police and stirring up conflict" What about Cambodia or Rwanada? Those were internal conflicts as far as your definition goes? Was it alright or not? Where is the line?
  - Zababa 5y ago
    Division of ethnic groups in Rwanda was a consequence of German and Belgian colonisation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide#Pre-independent_Rwanda_and_the_origins_of_Hutu,_Tutsi_and_Twa_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide#Pre-independe...

Israel forcibly sterilised African migrants, where is the sanctions and pressure against them? https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/?sh=174e5e5d67b8 https://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-... Illegal immigrants pushed out their homelands by Western military action in MENA toil for illegal wages across Southern Europe in farms like this: https://www.dw.com/en/spains-sea-of-plastic-where-europe-gets-its-produce-migrants-get-exploited/a-47824476 https://www.dw.com/en/spains-sea-of-plastic-where-europe-get... The USA has a racially-motivated drug criminalisation program, which fills prisons with people who then are forced to labour for below-market wages: https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263 https://www.npr.org/transcripts/884989263 How about we just let countries manage their own affairs instead of continually attempting to be World Police and stirring up conflict? I would prefer to buy from Chinese businesses and sell to Chinese consumers, with trade as free and least-taxed as possible, not go to war with them.

oreally 5y ago
Indeed. Double standards are common in global politics.
Hnrobert42 5y ago
Because the way China manages its affairs not only affects the Chinese people, but the rest of the world. Look no further than China’s encroachment on the territorial waters of the Philippines and other parts of the South China Sea. The financial advantages China gains by using forced labor, IP theft, and environmental damage provide China power which it uses to exert force on the rest of the world.
- Omnitaus 5y ago
  The US owns 5 colonies iirc so by your argument we should be sanctioned
- radmuzom 5y ago
  Given that Americans have committed more war crimes and human rights abuses than all other countries combined and has caused unimaginable destruction, pain and suffering in the world - I find it funny people complaining that China’s acrions are apparently affecting the world.
  - the_dune_13 5y ago
    I mean, WW2 still counts, right?
  - Hnrobert42 5y ago
    Two wrongs do not make a right. This FUD will not excuse China’s criminal behavior.
- underseacables 5y ago
  China is still the single greatest threat to world peace, from Tiananmen Square to ethnic cleansing, the government of China is a despotic regime of murderers. Anything the west can do to combat this, it’s a good thing, and shame on any American brand that puts profits over human rights.
the_dune_13 5y ago
"let countries manage their own affairs instead of continually attempting to be World Police and stirring up conflict" What about Cambodia or Rwanada? Those were internal conflicts as far as your definition goes? Was it alright or not? Where is the line?
- Zababa 5y ago
  Division of ethnic groups in Rwanda was a consequence of German and Belgian colonisation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide#Pre-independent_Rwanda_and_the_origins_of_Hutu,_Tutsi_and_Twa_groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_genocide#Pre-independe...