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Looking at the actual press release this listicle was based off of, the countries with highest media trust are, in order: Indonesia (73%), China (70%) and India
by Pils 6y ago
Looking at the actual press release this listicle was based off of, the countries with highest media trust are, in order: Indonesia (73%), China (70%) and India (69%)[0]. These countries are ranked #119, #177 and #142 on the Press Freedom Index[1].
I think "trust CEOs" is significantly less supported by Edelman's data than "reduce press freedom, emulate China," but I'm just a random internet commentator, not a high quality journalist like Felix Salmon.
I'd also note that the 3% drop also appears to be barely outside the survey's margin of error (survey population size: n=1,150).
[0] Media trust chart is on page 49 https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2021-01/2021%20Edelman%20Trust%20Barometer_U.S.%20Country%20Report_Clean.pdf https://www.edelman.com/sites/g/files/aatuss191/files/2021-0...
[1] https://rsf.org/en/ranking/2020 https://rsf.org/en/ranking/2020
- Simulacra 6y agoCould this article be propaganda?
- SkyMarshal 6y agoMore likely just run-of-the-mill journalistic statistics ignorance, which seems commonplace in US media these days, combined with deadline and story quota pressures.
- tinus_hn 6y agoI love how you’re accusing a journalist of lying, as a defense of journalists being accused of lying. ‘Oh well, that’s just run-of-the-mill journalistic statistics ignorance’
- bobthepanda 6y agoI don’t think it’s necessarily secret that since Craigslist traditional newsrooms have hemorrhaged money and staff. Sometimes things are malicious, sometimes things are ignorant, and sometimes it’s a mix. Is trying to be more specific about causes a “defence”?
- Fellshard 6y agoIn a way. The thing to remember about polls is that they tell you about publicly expressed opinion - in a freer nation, this can be a good gauge. When your very well-being relies on you responding in 'the right ways' to public inquiry, however...
- hntrader 6y agoPreference falsification, self-selection bias and sampling bias. Three sources of bias in polling. No problem in politically uncontroversial polls, but cryptonite otherwise.
- yhoneycomb 6y ago> press freedom index In other words, an organization with dubious motivations headquartered in Europe rates non-Western countries as low in their subjective measurement. How surprising to see that all of the Anglosphere got glowing rankings!
- dwaltrip 6y agoI just looked at the rankings and they seem ok at a glance. Can you give a concrete example of how and why they are wrong? Or tell us more specifically why we shouldn’t trust the organization running it? I’m not familiar with them.
- yhoneycomb 6y agoJust look - are there any countries there with high rankings that aren't on good terms with Western nations? I don't see any. The only way you could still think it's an objective ranking is if you REALLY think we're going to all these wars to free people.
- dwaltrip 6y agoCan you simply name a few countries on the list that you think should have a significantly different ranking? If not, then what's the issue?
- cambalache 6y agoNo, the onus is on you to demonstrate why there is a statistical significative difference between the countries. It seems you are an expert, could you tell me why Costa Rica is number 7 and T&T number 37? Why does Uruguay do that Chile doesnt which justifies all that difference? What Argentina must learn from Burkina Faso to rise up to that level? You have 0 idea, guess what? me neither, that's why you know the ranking is bullshit. I have lived in 4 of the countries mentioned above, they have wildly significant difference in rankings. My subjective take on the freedom of the press in those places?, it is very much the same.