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"Children's Health Defense is an American 501c3 nonprofit advocacy organization,[1] known for its anti-vaccine activism. According to Seth Mnookin, much of the

"Children's Health Defense is an American 501c3 nonprofit advocacy organization,[1] known for its anti-vaccine activism. According to Seth Mnookin, much of the material put forth by the organization involves misinformation on vaccines and anti-vaccine propaganda.[2] It was founded and is chaired by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.[3] Established under the name World Mercury Project in 2016, it has been campaigning against various public health programs, such as vaccination and fluoridation of drinking water." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Health_Defense https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Health_Defense

selimthegrim 6y ago
You know, if even the Catholic bishops aren't accusing it of this side effect fraught as they are with concern for child and fetal welfare I think GP needs to consider their position.
- cable2600 6y ago
  Catholic Bishops are concerned about the Johnston and Johnston vaccine because it was made with aborted fetal cells. So there is an ethic concern with Catholics on the Johnston and Johnston vaccine. Not the other vaccines though.
  - hcknwscommenter 6y ago
    made with cells derived from cells extracted from an aborted fetus and then passaged (grow to several 100 cell divisions on a plate, suspend in solution, discard 99% of cells, repeat hundreds of times, eventually magic happens). To call the vaccine "made from aborted fetal cells" is their argument, but it elides an astounding amount of distance between the cells used for virus production and actual aborted fetal cells.
    - cable2600 6y ago
      Anything to do with aborted human fetal cells is considered a sin in the Catholic faith.
      - mbg721 6y ago
        The killing of an unborn child via abortion is definitively considered a sin, but receiving a vaccine developed from those cells is an act sufficiently detached from that sin that most bishops are okay with it, so the rulings are going at the moment.

selimthegrim 6y ago

You know, if even the Catholic bishops aren't accusing it of this side effect fraught as they are with concern for child and fetal welfare I think GP needs to consider their position.

cable2600 6y ago
Catholic Bishops are concerned about the Johnston and Johnston vaccine because it was made with aborted fetal cells. So there is an ethic concern with Catholics on the Johnston and Johnston vaccine. Not the other vaccines though.
- hcknwscommenter 6y ago
  made with cells derived from cells extracted from an aborted fetus and then passaged (grow to several 100 cell divisions on a plate, suspend in solution, discard 99% of cells, repeat hundreds of times, eventually magic happens). To call the vaccine "made from aborted fetal cells" is their argument, but it elides an astounding amount of distance between the cells used for virus production and actual aborted fetal cells.
  - cable2600 6y ago
    Anything to do with aborted human fetal cells is considered a sin in the Catholic faith.
    - mbg721 6y ago
      The killing of an unborn child via abortion is definitively considered a sin, but receiving a vaccine developed from those cells is an act sufficiently detached from that sin that most bishops are okay with it, so the rulings are going at the moment.