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Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternati

Current title "Brave acquires search engine to offer the first private alternative to Google" seems quite misleading since there are plenty of private alternatives to Google (search engine) already ? Especially for english speaking programming and news etc. searches, https://duckduckgo.com https://duckduckgo.com is really good.

blocked_again 6y ago
DuckDuckGo uses bing for search.
- electrondood 6y ago
  You can choose what DuckDuckGo uses for search, including anonymous proxying of search queries to Google.
  - iKevinShah 6y ago
    where can we do this? All searches result in "DuckDuck vs Google" , how ddg is better etc.
- yammajr 6y ago
  From what I understand, DDG uses bing as a primary source, but they also pull data from numerous other sources, including their own crawler. https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...
vertis 6y ago
startpage.com as well.
- Daho0n 6y ago
  Now owned by an advertisement / tracking company. No thanks.
  - fsflover 6y ago
    It's not that bad: https://blog.privacytools.io/relisting-startpage/ https://blog.privacytools.io/relisting-startpage/.
    - Daho0n 6y ago
      According to startpage, no. But if there's no difference then why buy it? It's still an anti privacy company owning a so-called privacy company. They should prove they are private with external reviews if they want trust.
      - fsflover 6y ago
        With this reasoning, even external review will not help, because the company can change their practices right after the review.
  - freediver 6y ago
    DuckDuckGo and Brave are also owned by an ad company. Or do you see that differently?
rasengan 6y ago
Private Search [1] works well too. </shameless>. That said, Brave is an awesome company headed by someone I look up to greatly. I'm definitely optimistic about their search product. [1] https://private.sh/ https://private.sh/
- tlackemann 6y ago
  I disagree with the decisions of Brave. I recently uninstalled the browser on my phone when it kept prompting me to enable crypto wallets and other things I don't care about. I just want a better alternative to Chrome. Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them.
  - fc373745 6y ago
    I've never had such an issue. The only way I am able to avoid youtube ads on mobile is by using brave browser. Also i'm very sure all the nuisances you describe can be disabled.
    - tlackemann 6y ago
      They can be disabled and have been, multiple times. Each upgrade enables some new wallet on my homescreen or advertises some new coin exchange site (disabled both several times). One day, Twitter was randomly polluted with a "Tip" button next to each Tweet, it took me awhile to find how to disable that. A real shame too, I did enjoy using Brave for the short couple of months I did use it but their constant upgrades that reenable crypto are just plain annoying. Once again, Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them.
  - rasengan 6y ago
    > it kept prompting me to enable crypto wallets and other things I don't care about. I'm sure this will be fixed or can be disabled. I'm confident in Brave's passion toward its mission. > Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them. I have the opposite thought here. I believe that Brave's pioneering position in crypto will hedge the company front and center as we transition to newer, better internet protocols.
loceng 6y ago
Brave multiple times has promoted PR with headlines like this, claiming they're the first for something. They reek of gimmick and that tactic is gross, unauthentic.
- NelsonMinar 6y ago
  most aspects of Brave are gross. Their very foundational tech is unethical.
WalterSear 6y ago
Fwiw, over the many years of trying it, I have never experienced Duck Duck Go search results to be anything but unusably poor quality unless I specify the google search engine, which, IMHO, is quixotic.

blocked_again 6y ago

DuckDuckGo uses bing for search.

electrondood 6y ago
You can choose what DuckDuckGo uses for search, including anonymous proxying of search queries to Google.
- iKevinShah 6y ago
  where can we do this? All searches result in "DuckDuck vs Google" , how ddg is better etc.
yammajr 6y ago
From what I understand, DDG uses bing as a primary source, but they also pull data from numerous other sources, including their own crawler. https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources/ https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...

vertis 6y ago

startpage.com as well.

Daho0n 6y ago
Now owned by an advertisement / tracking company. No thanks.
- fsflover 6y ago
  It's not that bad: https://blog.privacytools.io/relisting-startpage/ https://blog.privacytools.io/relisting-startpage/.
  - Daho0n 6y ago
    According to startpage, no. But if there's no difference then why buy it? It's still an anti privacy company owning a so-called privacy company. They should prove they are private with external reviews if they want trust.
    - fsflover 6y ago
      With this reasoning, even external review will not help, because the company can change their practices right after the review.
- freediver 6y ago
  DuckDuckGo and Brave are also owned by an ad company. Or do you see that differently?

rasengan 6y ago

Private Search [1] works well too. </shameless>. That said, Brave is an awesome company headed by someone I look up to greatly. I'm definitely optimistic about their search product. [1] https://private.sh/ https://private.sh/

tlackemann 6y ago
I disagree with the decisions of Brave. I recently uninstalled the browser on my phone when it kept prompting me to enable crypto wallets and other things I don't care about. I just want a better alternative to Chrome. Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them.
- fc373745 6y ago
  I've never had such an issue. The only way I am able to avoid youtube ads on mobile is by using brave browser. Also i'm very sure all the nuisances you describe can be disabled.
  - tlackemann 6y ago
    They can be disabled and have been, multiple times. Each upgrade enables some new wallet on my homescreen or advertises some new coin exchange site (disabled both several times). One day, Twitter was randomly polluted with a "Tip" button next to each Tweet, it took me awhile to find how to disable that. A real shame too, I did enjoy using Brave for the short couple of months I did use it but their constant upgrades that reenable crypto are just plain annoying. Once again, Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them.
- rasengan 6y ago
  > it kept prompting me to enable crypto wallets and other things I don't care about. I'm sure this will be fixed or can be disabled. I'm confident in Brave's passion toward its mission. > Brave's obsession with crypto will be the death of them. I have the opposite thought here. I believe that Brave's pioneering position in crypto will hedge the company front and center as we transition to newer, better internet protocols.

loceng 6y ago

Brave multiple times has promoted PR with headlines like this, claiming they're the first for something. They reek of gimmick and that tactic is gross, unauthentic.

NelsonMinar 6y ago
most aspects of Brave are gross. Their very foundational tech is unethical.

WalterSear 6y ago

Fwiw, over the many years of trying it, I have never experienced Duck Duck Go search results to be anything but unusably poor quality unless I specify the google search engine, which, IMHO, is quixotic.