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At the same time, this is an incredibly direct source. It's not a long-winded blog post that editorializes. Hopefully someone here can enlighten us, though.

by zbanks 15y ago

gte910h 15y ago
Oh definitely. Also definitely an illegal thing to download which will probably have court cases going after it and IP trolls fiercely finding who downloaded it, etc. I'm a big boy: I can ignore editorial commentary if I get to not commit a crime.
- GiraffeNecktie 15y ago
  How could it be any more illegal than reading wikileaks?
  - zbanks 15y ago
    To download it, you (basically) are also sharing the file. It's as illegal as mirroring wikileaks.
    - GiraffeNecktie 15y ago
      Oh, you mean like these? http://boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-blocked-bu.html http://boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-blocked-bu.html
    - derrida 15y ago
      Mirroring Wikileaks is not illegal, First Amendment... highest law in the land.
      - rabidsnail 15y ago
        Copyright is an exception, unfortunately.
    - mquander 15y ago
      The government's PR branch has really done a number on you. It's absolutely legal to host or mirror Wikileaks, under any reasonable interpretation of the law; remember that the only way that the government can dig up a case on Assange is to try to label him as a co-conspirator in directly obtaining the information. Just distributing the material is protected -- it's the same thing that newspapers do all the time. EDIT: On reflection, I shouldn't sound so confident, because I'm not a lawyer. But that's my understanding.
      - JoachimSchipper 15y ago
        It does seem to be legal, for now. That doesn't mean that the US government is unwilling to, say, question you every time you fly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Investigation_and_Detainment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Investigation_a.... (Note that Jacob was more involved than simply running a mirror, though.)
- adambyrtek 15y ago
  It's telling that even Hacker News users are so intimidated that they are afraid to click on a link. I find it surprising and a bit scary (but I don't live in the US).
  - gte910h 15y ago
    Do you have days to spend talking to police and lawyers instead of working? I'd rather not. It's not 'clicking on a link' that's the issue, it's making a copy of sony's website's source code, which is very possibly a felony.

At the same time, this is an incredibly direct source. It's not a long-winded blog post that editorializes. Hopefully someone here can enlighten us, though.

by zbanks 15y ago

At the same time, this is an incredibly direct source. It's not a long-winded blog post that editorializes. Hopefully someone here can enlighten us, though.

gte910h 15y ago

Oh definitely. Also definitely an illegal thing to download which will probably have court cases going after it and IP trolls fiercely finding who downloaded it, etc. I'm a big boy: I can ignore editorial commentary if I get to not commit a crime.

GiraffeNecktie 15y ago
How could it be any more illegal than reading wikileaks?
- zbanks 15y ago
  To download it, you (basically) are also sharing the file. It's as illegal as mirroring wikileaks.
  - GiraffeNecktie 15y ago
    Oh, you mean like these? http://boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-blocked-bu.html http://boingboing.net/2010/12/03/wikileaks-blocked-bu.html
  - derrida 15y ago
    Mirroring Wikileaks is not illegal, First Amendment... highest law in the land.
    - rabidsnail 15y ago
      Copyright is an exception, unfortunately.
  - mquander 15y ago
    The government's PR branch has really done a number on you. It's absolutely legal to host or mirror Wikileaks, under any reasonable interpretation of the law; remember that the only way that the government can dig up a case on Assange is to try to label him as a co-conspirator in directly obtaining the information. Just distributing the material is protected -- it's the same thing that newspapers do all the time. EDIT: On reflection, I shouldn't sound so confident, because I'm not a lawyer. But that's my understanding.
    - JoachimSchipper 15y ago
      It does seem to be legal, for now. That doesn't mean that the US government is unwilling to, say, question you every time you fly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Investigation_and_Detainment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Appelbaum#Investigation_a.... (Note that Jacob was more involved than simply running a mirror, though.)
adambyrtek 15y ago
It's telling that even Hacker News users are so intimidated that they are afraid to click on a link. I find it surprising and a bit scary (but I don't live in the US).
- gte910h 15y ago
  Do you have days to spend talking to police and lawyers instead of working? I'd rather not. It's not 'clicking on a link' that's the issue, it's making a copy of sony's website's source code, which is very possibly a felony.