I sort of agree with this. I'm not a lisp fan, I don't think lisp is bad, it's just not how my brain works so I struggle. But I understand lisp enough to agre

I sort of agree with this. I'm not a lisp fan, I don't think lisp is bad, it's just not how my brain works so I struggle. But I understand lisp enough to agree with you and I think that is what John was trying to do.