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Again, the elected civilian government has zero control or decisions or power over the military and border affairs (border affairs, home affairs ministry contro

Again, the elected civilian government has zero control or decisions or power over the military and border affairs (border affairs, home affairs ministry controlled by military). So when ARSA or AA attack military outposts and police stations, and the Myanmar military chooses to shell villages, kill civilians, and commit war crimes, causing a refugee crisis (or “genocide” as westerners like to throw around) at no point do civilians or the elected government have anything to do with it.

nix23 6y ago
Again why then are they investigated, your story sound too easy and one-sided, if you dont have an argument, you just say "we can just speculate." Fact is: -Aung San Suu Kyi defended actively a genocide for not being one, while speaking in The Hague. -The civilian government was informed and partially included in the genocide. Both points are fact, and NOT speculations.
- freeburma 6y ago
  What, exactly, do you mean by the “civilian government was partially included in the genocide?” The military does not take orders from civilian government, it’s the other way around. Civilian gov has no legal or de facto control over Tatmadaw, or border control, or home affairs (police, courts). There is no civilian legislative control over Rakhine operations. Tatmadaw just does whatever they wants. And anyone who speaks against their actions is imprisoned. If AASK spoke against them they would have imprisoned her again, like they just did. The politics AASK is dealing with are complex.
  - nix23 6y ago
    >>A day earlier, in yet another legal challenge, a Rohingya rights group launched a case calling on courts in Argentina to prosecute military and civilian officials – including Aung San Suu Kyi – under the concept of universal jurisdiction, which pushes for domestic courts to investigate international crimes. https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/anaylsis/2019/11/21/Myanmar-Rohingya-genocide-allegations-Abuses-courts https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/anaylsis/2019/11/21/Myanm... https://burmacampaign.org.uk/argentinean-courts-urged-to-prosecute-senior-myanmar-military-and-government-officials-for-the-rohingya-genocide/ https://burmacampaign.org.uk/argentinean-courts-urged-to-pro... >If AASK spoke against them they would have imprisoned her again She could just stay at the Haag and tell the truth...how about that?
    - freeburma 6y ago
      The complaint filed in Argentina does not establish any responsibility for genocide by Aung San Su Kyi.
      - nix23 6y ago
        You did not even read the Article: “The Rohingya people are facing an existential threat. For decades, the Myanmar authorities have tried to wipe us out by confining us to ghettos, forcing us to flee our home country and killing us. The global community must act now to end this genocide and bring those responsible to justice,” said Tun Khin, President of BROUK. Shame on you!
DanBC 6y ago
Can you link me to any statements she's made where she condemns the genocidal actions of the military?
- freeburma 6y ago
  Read her statement she made at ICJ. I think you’ll find the situation is more complex than the simple narrative the international media presents. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/12/transcript-aung-san-suu-kyis-speech-at-the-icj-in-full/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/12/transcript-aung-sa...

nix23 6y ago

Again why then are they investigated, your story sound too easy and one-sided, if you dont have an argument, you just say "we can just speculate." Fact is: -Aung San Suu Kyi defended actively a genocide for not being one, while speaking in The Hague. -The civilian government was informed and partially included in the genocide. Both points are fact, and NOT speculations.

freeburma 6y ago
What, exactly, do you mean by the “civilian government was partially included in the genocide?” The military does not take orders from civilian government, it’s the other way around. Civilian gov has no legal or de facto control over Tatmadaw, or border control, or home affairs (police, courts). There is no civilian legislative control over Rakhine operations. Tatmadaw just does whatever they wants. And anyone who speaks against their actions is imprisoned. If AASK spoke against them they would have imprisoned her again, like they just did. The politics AASK is dealing with are complex.
- nix23 6y ago
  >>A day earlier, in yet another legal challenge, a Rohingya rights group launched a case calling on courts in Argentina to prosecute military and civilian officials – including Aung San Suu Kyi – under the concept of universal jurisdiction, which pushes for domestic courts to investigate international crimes. https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/anaylsis/2019/11/21/Myanmar-Rohingya-genocide-allegations-Abuses-courts https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/anaylsis/2019/11/21/Myanm... https://burmacampaign.org.uk/argentinean-courts-urged-to-prosecute-senior-myanmar-military-and-government-officials-for-the-rohingya-genocide/ https://burmacampaign.org.uk/argentinean-courts-urged-to-pro... >If AASK spoke against them they would have imprisoned her again She could just stay at the Haag and tell the truth...how about that?
  - freeburma 6y ago
    The complaint filed in Argentina does not establish any responsibility for genocide by Aung San Su Kyi.
    - nix23 6y ago
      You did not even read the Article: “The Rohingya people are facing an existential threat. For decades, the Myanmar authorities have tried to wipe us out by confining us to ghettos, forcing us to flee our home country and killing us. The global community must act now to end this genocide and bring those responsible to justice,” said Tun Khin, President of BROUK. Shame on you!

DanBC 6y ago

Can you link me to any statements she's made where she condemns the genocidal actions of the military?

freeburma 6y ago
Read her statement she made at ICJ. I think you’ll find the situation is more complex than the simple narrative the international media presents. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/12/transcript-aung-san-suu-kyis-speech-at-the-icj-in-full/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/12/transcript-aung-sa...