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Tried. You have to have a doctor verify that gas caused injuries. Doctors did not want anything to do with a lawsuit. Plus they had no idea what 3 months o

Tried. You have to have a doctor verify that gas caused injuries. Doctors did not want anything to do with a lawsuit. Plus they had no idea what 3 months of natural gas exposure would do to body. Turns out most cases of being exposed to that much and that long simply end in explosion.

undefined1 6y ago
wtf. this is terrible. why didn’t the doctors support it? they couldn’t verify it was caused by the gas?
- nullserver 6y ago
  Vague symptoms. I was a confused mess for a long time. No one believed me. Kept shoving anti-depressants at me. Took better then 2 years to find out what the stroke like symptoms were. They were strokes, go figure. Toxic exposure activated factor 5 Leiden. So my blood clots like crazy now. Wasn’t an issue before. Again, doctors don’t like to get involved. Wife had a horrific cough for a year, then recovered. Kid isn’t the brightest anymore. But that’s hard to prove.
  - Fnoord 6y ago
    Quite a story, I know its useless to say but it got me tears in my eyes. I hope justice is served ASAP. I know you wrote you tried to sue. I still hope they somehow get what they deserve. Scum like this belongs in jail, for a long long time, and on top of that a civil lawsuit for damages (loss of income at the very least, but also children suffer from this their entire life so its only fair they get more compensation).
  - rohfle 6y ago
    Environmental pollution causing chronic health symptoms is one of the darkest things that I have ever experienced. Even if you identify the source issue, it is a never ending battle against Occam's razor with communities, government regulators, and health professionals. Overall you experienced systemic failure: the business fails to protect the customer but isn't held accountable, the health profession focuses on managing the individuals mental health instead of recognizing the exposure¹, government regulation did not protect you or help you afterwards. Legal needs evidence and money to make it work. It's all too hard and no one wants to know. Whats really scary is that happens more than you think... And unless you are a part of a class action of people with similar issues, or you have power and influence, or it is a widely recognized issue, its really hard to deal with. Look after yourself, your family and do your best. ¹ There could be studies in medical journals, or toxicology reports published by govt or others, but that doesn't mean your doctor will read or follow them. They might help extend your understanding though.
    - nullserver 6y ago
      Appreciate the thoughts. I did find studies, doctors had no interest in reading them.
- starkd 6y ago
  Most doctors don't like to do the forensics to find the exact description. They are interested in finding the best treatment in shortest possible time. I wonder if a research hospital affiliated with a university would have been more receptive.
  - nullserver 6y ago
    Tried. Neurologist ran an MRI then suggested I sleep more. Then they tested me for epilepsy. Weird experience
- curryst 6y ago
  In civil court, you basically have to prove that it was more likely than not the gas. That's really hard to do for chronic symptoms. Are you sure you didn't hit your head at some point? Does anyone in your family have any history of similar symptoms? Are you sure it isn't Legionaire's Disease, or Lupus, or some other House MD thing that only 4 people get per year? There are tons of risk factors for everything. If you're a smoker, and you worked in an asbestos factory, did the cigarettes or the factory give you lung cancer? I'm a little surprised that some kind of gross negligence doesn't apply, regardless of any damages proven. Perhaps there wasn't any evidence they were aware?
neolog 6y ago
That's terrible. I wonder if there are lawyers who specialize in this kind of thing.

undefined1 6y ago

wtf. this is terrible. why didn’t the doctors support it? they couldn’t verify it was caused by the gas?

nullserver 6y ago
Vague symptoms. I was a confused mess for a long time. No one believed me. Kept shoving anti-depressants at me. Took better then 2 years to find out what the stroke like symptoms were. They were strokes, go figure. Toxic exposure activated factor 5 Leiden. So my blood clots like crazy now. Wasn’t an issue before. Again, doctors don’t like to get involved. Wife had a horrific cough for a year, then recovered. Kid isn’t the brightest anymore. But that’s hard to prove.
- Fnoord 6y ago
  Quite a story, I know its useless to say but it got me tears in my eyes. I hope justice is served ASAP. I know you wrote you tried to sue. I still hope they somehow get what they deserve. Scum like this belongs in jail, for a long long time, and on top of that a civil lawsuit for damages (loss of income at the very least, but also children suffer from this their entire life so its only fair they get more compensation).
- rohfle 6y ago
  Environmental pollution causing chronic health symptoms is one of the darkest things that I have ever experienced. Even if you identify the source issue, it is a never ending battle against Occam's razor with communities, government regulators, and health professionals. Overall you experienced systemic failure: the business fails to protect the customer but isn't held accountable, the health profession focuses on managing the individuals mental health instead of recognizing the exposure¹, government regulation did not protect you or help you afterwards. Legal needs evidence and money to make it work. It's all too hard and no one wants to know. Whats really scary is that happens more than you think... And unless you are a part of a class action of people with similar issues, or you have power and influence, or it is a widely recognized issue, its really hard to deal with. Look after yourself, your family and do your best. ¹ There could be studies in medical journals, or toxicology reports published by govt or others, but that doesn't mean your doctor will read or follow them. They might help extend your understanding though.
  - nullserver 6y ago
    Appreciate the thoughts. I did find studies, doctors had no interest in reading them.
starkd 6y ago
Most doctors don't like to do the forensics to find the exact description. They are interested in finding the best treatment in shortest possible time. I wonder if a research hospital affiliated with a university would have been more receptive.
- nullserver 6y ago
  Tried. Neurologist ran an MRI then suggested I sleep more. Then they tested me for epilepsy. Weird experience
curryst 6y ago
In civil court, you basically have to prove that it was more likely than not the gas. That's really hard to do for chronic symptoms. Are you sure you didn't hit your head at some point? Does anyone in your family have any history of similar symptoms? Are you sure it isn't Legionaire's Disease, or Lupus, or some other House MD thing that only 4 people get per year? There are tons of risk factors for everything. If you're a smoker, and you worked in an asbestos factory, did the cigarettes or the factory give you lung cancer? I'm a little surprised that some kind of gross negligence doesn't apply, regardless of any damages proven. Perhaps there wasn't any evidence they were aware?

neolog 6y ago

That's terrible. I wonder if there are lawyers who specialize in this kind of thing.