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Despite what western media outlets say, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Military juntas are often a good/restorative part of government in countries like T

Despite what western media outlets say, this is not necessarily a bad thing. Military juntas are often a good/restorative part of government in countries like Thailand and Myanmar, and are well received by the general public. Doesn't mesh well with washington kissinger pastiche though

apsec112 6y ago
The public voted overwhelmingly in favor of Aung San Suu Kyi and against the military in the most recent elections: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Myanmar_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Myanmar_general_election
- deathgrips 6y ago
  Is this the same general public that endorses genocide against Muslims?
  - nightcereal 6y ago
    Please don't speak again unless you thoroughly know what you are talking about when it comes to politics. I am a Burmese and Aung San Suu Kyi has never been racist. In fact, her former advisor, Ko Ni, who was a Muslim as well spoke out against the Myanmar nationality law drafted by the militay junta that prevented Rohingya of Burmese citizenship and he got assassinated. This isn't the only one, there have been other bombings, death threats, kidnapping and assassinations by the military since Aung San Suu Kyi's party won. If you were to visit Myanmar and ask anyone, be it from a racial minority group or literally anyone, they will speak in favor of her.
    - naebother 6y ago
      Yeah, but did she do anything other than deflect and support the military at that time? I get that the situation is complex and not entirely her fault, but let's not absolve her either.
    - l8again 6y ago
      > Aung San Suu Kyi has never been racist "But her personal defence of the army's actions at the ICJ hearing last year in the Hague was seen as a new turning point that obliterated what little remained of her international reputation." [1] from this article itself. "No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim" [2] Will admit that I am not very familiar with Myanmar politics, but the above sentence from the article seems to indicate the opposite. Now, it is entirely possible that she was forced to do that due to military pressure at home. Also, I have an allergic reaction to statements made that "everyone speaks in favor of an X leader" anywhere. I am pretty sure the Rohingyas aren't all that in favor of her, even though they have no good options any way. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11685977 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11685977 [2] https://www.vox.com/2016/3/28/11306856/aung-san-suu-kyi-muslim-rohingya-bbc https://www.vox.com/2016/3/28/11306856/aung-san-suu-kyi-musl... (edited for clarity)
      - freeburma 6y ago
        You don’t know what you’re taking about. You just read news articles. - ASSK/elected government never had any power over Rhohingya situation. - Only outcome of UN trial would be sanctions, which would not help Rhohingya and further harm Burmese. ASSK was choosing the better option by trying to avoid sanctions. Knowing full well that she would be vilified by media. - ASSK good friend and personal lawyer, U Ko Ni was Muslim and assassinated for trying to protect civilian government.
  - Clewza313 6y ago
    The military that just took power is the one that's been committing that genocide.
  - myWindoonn 6y ago
    No, the Rohingya genocide [0] is not backed by the public, but is backed by the same military junta which has just now seized power. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide
  - dang 6y ago
    We've banned this account for using HN repeatedly for flamewar and ignoring repeated requests to stop. That's an abuse of the site and not cool at all. No, we don't support genocide. We're just trying to have an internet forum not destroy itself. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - deathgrips 6y ago
      Test
treis 6y ago
Military rule has been a complete and utter disaster for Myanmar. It's one of the poorest countries in the world, brutal repression, ethnic cleansing, isolation, the list goes on. There is nothing at all to redeem it.
- deleted 6y ago
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- nayaketo 6y ago
  I'm from Nepal. We're next doors to Myanmar. We have democracy, social policies (even universal healthcare, which is comically bad anyway but we do have that), freedom of speech, free press, yadda yadda but Myanmar is still richer than us. The disagreements of democratically elected leaders has been the main cause of political instability for us for more than a decade now.
  - rational_indian 6y ago
    > We have democracy, social policies (even universal healthcare, which is comically bad anyway but we do have that), freedom of speech, free press, yadda yadda Most middle-eastern countries do not have this either... > but Myanmar is still richer than us. but I am willing to bet they are richer than both Nepal and Myanmar. It seems what Myanmar has over Nepal is natural resources, (just like the middle eastern countries). This is nothing to be proud of.
    - nayaketo 6y ago
      We are blessed in other ways too. We have a huge hydroelectricity potential that we haven't tapped fully. The problem is that people are insanely xenophobic and foreign investment is derided as "selling out to foreigners" here. Existing rules make it a nightmare for prospective foreign investors. There's not much capital inside to invest on our own natural resources.
  - treis 6y ago
    Autocracy followed by a Maoist revolution isn't a path to success either.

apsec112 6y ago

The public voted overwhelmingly in favor of Aung San Suu Kyi and against the military in the most recent elections: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Myanmar_general_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Myanmar_general_election

deathgrips 6y ago
Is this the same general public that endorses genocide against Muslims?
- nightcereal 6y ago
  Please don't speak again unless you thoroughly know what you are talking about when it comes to politics. I am a Burmese and Aung San Suu Kyi has never been racist. In fact, her former advisor, Ko Ni, who was a Muslim as well spoke out against the Myanmar nationality law drafted by the militay junta that prevented Rohingya of Burmese citizenship and he got assassinated. This isn't the only one, there have been other bombings, death threats, kidnapping and assassinations by the military since Aung San Suu Kyi's party won. If you were to visit Myanmar and ask anyone, be it from a racial minority group or literally anyone, they will speak in favor of her.
  - naebother 6y ago
    Yeah, but did she do anything other than deflect and support the military at that time? I get that the situation is complex and not entirely her fault, but let's not absolve her either.
  - l8again 6y ago
    > Aung San Suu Kyi has never been racist "But her personal defence of the army's actions at the ICJ hearing last year in the Hague was seen as a new turning point that obliterated what little remained of her international reputation." [1] from this article itself. "No one told me I was going to be interviewed by a Muslim" [2] Will admit that I am not very familiar with Myanmar politics, but the above sentence from the article seems to indicate the opposite. Now, it is entirely possible that she was forced to do that due to military pressure at home. Also, I have an allergic reaction to statements made that "everyone speaks in favor of an X leader" anywhere. I am pretty sure the Rohingyas aren't all that in favor of her, even though they have no good options any way. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11685977 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-11685977 [2] https://www.vox.com/2016/3/28/11306856/aung-san-suu-kyi-muslim-rohingya-bbc https://www.vox.com/2016/3/28/11306856/aung-san-suu-kyi-musl... (edited for clarity)
    - freeburma 6y ago
      You don’t know what you’re taking about. You just read news articles. - ASSK/elected government never had any power over Rhohingya situation. - Only outcome of UN trial would be sanctions, which would not help Rhohingya and further harm Burmese. ASSK was choosing the better option by trying to avoid sanctions. Knowing full well that she would be vilified by media. - ASSK good friend and personal lawyer, U Ko Ni was Muslim and assassinated for trying to protect civilian government.
- Clewza313 6y ago
  The military that just took power is the one that's been committing that genocide.
- myWindoonn 6y ago
  No, the Rohingya genocide [0] is not backed by the public, but is backed by the same military junta which has just now seized power. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rohingya_genocide
- dang 6y ago
  We've banned this account for using HN repeatedly for flamewar and ignoring repeated requests to stop. That's an abuse of the site and not cool at all. No, we don't support genocide. We're just trying to have an internet forum not destroy itself. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - deathgrips 6y ago
    Test

treis 6y ago

Military rule has been a complete and utter disaster for Myanmar. It's one of the poorest countries in the world, brutal repression, ethnic cleansing, isolation, the list goes on. There is nothing at all to redeem it.

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nayaketo 6y ago
I'm from Nepal. We're next doors to Myanmar. We have democracy, social policies (even universal healthcare, which is comically bad anyway but we do have that), freedom of speech, free press, yadda yadda but Myanmar is still richer than us. The disagreements of democratically elected leaders has been the main cause of political instability for us for more than a decade now.
- rational_indian 6y ago
  > We have democracy, social policies (even universal healthcare, which is comically bad anyway but we do have that), freedom of speech, free press, yadda yadda Most middle-eastern countries do not have this either... > but Myanmar is still richer than us. but I am willing to bet they are richer than both Nepal and Myanmar. It seems what Myanmar has over Nepal is natural resources, (just like the middle eastern countries). This is nothing to be proud of.
  - nayaketo 6y ago
    We are blessed in other ways too. We have a huge hydroelectricity potential that we haven't tapped fully. The problem is that people are insanely xenophobic and foreign investment is derided as "selling out to foreigners" here. Existing rules make it a nightmare for prospective foreign investors. There's not much capital inside to invest on our own natural resources.
- treis 6y ago
  Autocracy followed by a Maoist revolution isn't a path to success either.