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Random piece of history - John DeLorean got his start creating snowcats when he purchased the Logan Machine Company (LMC) brand. He quickly renamed it to DMC, a

Random piece of history - John DeLorean got his start creating snowcats when he purchased the Logan Machine Company (LMC) brand. He quickly renamed it to DMC, and continued to make snowcats at the same time he was making the DMC DeLorean. I have one of the LMC snowcats from the mid 80s and it's fantastic machine.

sokoloff 6y ago
I would characterize his early (and spectacular) career at General Motors as where he “got his start”.
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- beatboxrevival 6y ago
  You took that quote out of context. "...creating snowcats when he purchased the Logan Machine Company" I'm aware of his automotive history. Just wanted to provide a different perspective of what other things he was doing around the same time.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Sure. If the question is "How did John Delorean start manufacturing snowcats?", then I completely butchered the quote. If the question is "How did John Delorean get his start?" it seems to me like "at General Motors" is a better answer than "by buying LMC".
    - beatboxrevival 6y ago
      There was no question posed. I was simply injecting a random piece of trivia (which I acknowledged). Now that you understand my intent, why do you keep pressing? These are the types of responses that make people not want to comment on news.yc.
      - cestith 6y ago
        To be fair the wording was a little ambiguous but sokoloff could have asked for clarification of meaning rather than dropping a "gotcha" sort of disagreement.
        sokoloff 6y ago
        Given that at least two people found my comment disagreeable or "gotcha", I have to accept that it landed that way and apologize for that. It wasn't intended that way, but given that it landed that way, that's on me because I typed it. What I intended was: Hey, John DeLorean started a car company with his name on the door, which is super-cool. If I wanted to go get started on creating Sokoloff Motors, what's the background I should seek to maximize my chance of succeeding? I wonder how John DeLorean got his start... In that regard, becoming a division head at GM is probably overwhelmingly the most relevant experience. I'll drop the topic here with a final apology for any unfairness or "gotcha" feeling that I caused.
        cestith 6y ago
        Hey, credit for lessons learned and all that, right? It's always uncomfortable when we end up in a disagreement when we're just trying to contribute to the discussion. As a dispassionate third party it's easier for me to chalk it up to where things could have gone better than to pass out fault and assign you both goals and motives I can't actually know. When I was in school they tried to teach us self-esteem and all that, and that nobody else could make us feel any certain way. Water off a duck's back and all that. There's a little truth to that, but it's largely bullshit. The real truth they didn't so much teach is that conversation is not happenstance and although such a thing as talent for it may be real, it's mostly a skillset. It can be practiced and learned. It can even be trained. One of you said something that wasn't quite unambiguously clear, which is an opportunity to improve. The other took one of those possible meanings and ran with it, offering a different valid interpretation of the phrasing and a correction based on that point of view. That's another opportunity to improve. Getting to the shared understanding first rather than after the fact would have been nice, but we're all human (or at least passed this instance of the Turing test) here. Thanks for not being a dick about it, and I for one happily accept your apology.

sokoloff 6y ago

I would characterize his early (and spectacular) career at General Motors as where he “got his start”.

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beatboxrevival 6y ago
You took that quote out of context. "...creating snowcats when he purchased the Logan Machine Company" I'm aware of his automotive history. Just wanted to provide a different perspective of what other things he was doing around the same time.
- sokoloff 6y ago
  Sure. If the question is "How did John Delorean start manufacturing snowcats?", then I completely butchered the quote. If the question is "How did John Delorean get his start?" it seems to me like "at General Motors" is a better answer than "by buying LMC".
  - beatboxrevival 6y ago
    There was no question posed. I was simply injecting a random piece of trivia (which I acknowledged). Now that you understand my intent, why do you keep pressing? These are the types of responses that make people not want to comment on news.yc.
    - cestith 6y ago
      To be fair the wording was a little ambiguous but sokoloff could have asked for clarification of meaning rather than dropping a "gotcha" sort of disagreement.
      - sokoloff 6y ago
        Given that at least two people found my comment disagreeable or "gotcha", I have to accept that it landed that way and apologize for that. It wasn't intended that way, but given that it landed that way, that's on me because I typed it. What I intended was: Hey, John DeLorean started a car company with his name on the door, which is super-cool. If I wanted to go get started on creating Sokoloff Motors, what's the background I should seek to maximize my chance of succeeding? I wonder how John DeLorean got his start... In that regard, becoming a division head at GM is probably overwhelmingly the most relevant experience. I'll drop the topic here with a final apology for any unfairness or "gotcha" feeling that I caused.
        cestith 6y ago
        Hey, credit for lessons learned and all that, right? It's always uncomfortable when we end up in a disagreement when we're just trying to contribute to the discussion. As a dispassionate third party it's easier for me to chalk it up to where things could have gone better than to pass out fault and assign you both goals and motives I can't actually know. When I was in school they tried to teach us self-esteem and all that, and that nobody else could make us feel any certain way. Water off a duck's back and all that. There's a little truth to that, but it's largely bullshit. The real truth they didn't so much teach is that conversation is not happenstance and although such a thing as talent for it may be real, it's mostly a skillset. It can be practiced and learned. It can even be trained. One of you said something that wasn't quite unambiguously clear, which is an opportunity to improve. The other took one of those possible meanings and ran with it, offering a different valid interpretation of the phrasing and a correction based on that point of view. That's another opportunity to improve. Getting to the shared understanding first rather than after the fact would have been nice, but we're all human (or at least passed this instance of the Turing test) here. Thanks for not being a dick about it, and I for one happily accept your apology.