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> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Here's a brief summary of violence that o

> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: 3 Buffalo cops run over 1 Bronx cop run over 2 NYPD officers assaulted https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/suv-rams-police-in-buffalo-running-over-2-cops-more-officers-injured-in-ny-video.html https://www.syracuse.com/state/2020/06/suv-rams-police-in-bu... When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.

ardy42 6y ago
>>> The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. >> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? > Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: > 3 Buffalo cops run over ... > Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. So you're saying the increase in homicides is BLM protesters (or hangers on) murdering cops?
- the_drunkard 6y ago
  At best you missed the last two sentences of my reply. At worse, you're being intentionally thick headed. >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.
  - ardy42 6y ago
    >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM?
    - the_drunkard 6y ago
      > By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM? Police are a controlled variable, they existed in 2019, 2018, 2017, etc... BLM protests and the associated violence that occurred during the summer months directly coincides with a spike in 2020 murder rates. These protests turned brutally violent after dark; to not acknowledge this is troublesome. While this conclusion may not be in vogue, it maps with the data. And to round this out, COVID and unemployment are likely also factors here... but I'm merely responding to your initial question below. >>>How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Cheers amigo!
    - dang 6y ago
      Please don't perpetuate political flamewars on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If another comment is egregious, the site guidelines ask you to flag it rather than feeding it by replying. Also, please don't use HN primarily for political battle. It looks like you've been coming close to that line lately, and that's the line at which we start banning accounts. We have to, because otherwise this place will just turn into a political flamewar site, and we can't allow that. I've written many explanations about this if you (or anyone) cares to read them. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
  - dang 6y ago
    It's against the HN guidelines to post flamewar comments like this and the other ones you've been posting in this thread. Swipes like "intentionally thick headed" and "you're being intentionally disingenuous" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25855275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25855275) are particularly not cool. Moreover, we ban accounts that use the site primarily for political battle, regardless of their politics. We have to, because it destroys the curious conversation that HN is supposed to be for. Your account has been using HN primarily for political battle and just slid significantly downward toward flamewar hell, so I briefly just banned it, but I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt instead, and assume that you didn't know what the rules are. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended in the future. That means thoughtful conversation on a variety of intellectually curious topics, no flamewar, and not using the site primarily for political arguments. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

ardy42 6y ago

>>> The slaughter of an extra 3000-4000 people in the span of seven months is a colossal tragedy. I hope that the cheerleaders of future racial reckonings will do all in their power to prevent similar disasters. >> How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? > Here's a brief summary of violence that occurred in one day of BLM protests in the state of New York: > 3 Buffalo cops run over ... > Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. So you're saying the increase in homicides is BLM protesters (or hangers on) murdering cops?

the_drunkard 6y ago
At best you missed the last two sentences of my reply. At worse, you're being intentionally thick headed. >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters.
- ardy42 6y ago
  >> When looting and vandalism are allowed to reign supreme, the atmosphere alone sets the stage for more violence. >> Violence begets violence, whether it's committed by BLM protesters or a mob of Trump supporters. By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM?
  - the_drunkard 6y ago
    > By that logic, you should be blaming the police. Why did you stop tracing back once you got to BLM? Police are a controlled variable, they existed in 2019, 2018, 2017, etc... BLM protests and the associated violence that occurred during the summer months directly coincides with a spike in 2020 murder rates. These protests turned brutally violent after dark; to not acknowledge this is troublesome. While this conclusion may not be in vogue, it maps with the data. And to round this out, COVID and unemployment are likely also factors here... but I'm merely responding to your initial question below. >>>How exactly do you think the BLM protesters are responsible for these murders, or could have acted to prevent them? Cheers amigo!
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't perpetuate political flamewars on HN, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. If another comment is egregious, the site guidelines ask you to flag it rather than feeding it by replying. Also, please don't use HN primarily for political battle. It looks like you've been coming close to that line lately, and that's the line at which we start banning accounts. We have to, because otherwise this place will just turn into a political flamewar site, and we can't allow that. I've written many explanations about this if you (or anyone) cares to read them. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...
- dang 6y ago
  It's against the HN guidelines to post flamewar comments like this and the other ones you've been posting in this thread. Swipes like "intentionally thick headed" and "you're being intentionally disingenuous" (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25855275 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25855275) are particularly not cool. Moreover, we ban accounts that use the site primarily for political battle, regardless of their politics. We have to, because it destroys the curious conversation that HN is supposed to be for. Your account has been using HN primarily for political battle and just slid significantly downward toward flamewar hell, so I briefly just banned it, but I decided to give you the benefit of the doubt instead, and assume that you didn't know what the rules are. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and use HN as intended in the future. That means thoughtful conversation on a variety of intellectually curious topics, no flamewar, and not using the site primarily for political arguments. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=political%20overlap%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...