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23 people died. These are the very people we were trying to save, why we shut everything down, right? But I guess we don't feel as strongly about their deaths b

23 people died. These are the very people we were trying to save, why we shut everything down, right? But I guess we don't feel as strongly about their deaths because it was our vaccine that did it. Looking forward to 2021

craftinator 6y ago
> because it was our vaccine that did it What makes you think that
- rubycon22 6y ago
  It contributed to their deaths in the same way covid contributes to the death of someone with underlying conditions. Or what, will you say that it was the underlying conditions that killed them, and not covid? ;)
  - rimunroe 6y ago
    How do you know it contributed to their death? How would it do so? There are clear ways underlying conditions can contribute to death by covid, but I’m not aware of any such thing with the vaccine.
  - loopz 6y ago
    Very old people were not part of volunteer group, so this vaccine do have more severe side effects than extrapolated. They are changing the regime and skipping some of the frailest due to this. The vaccine will still provide protection for most.
  - rat87 6y ago
    We don't know that We are pretty sure that Covid caused the vast majority of those excess deaths
rsynnott 6y ago
These appear to be elderly patients in care homes. The CFR if they get covid is pretty horrifying. If I was 90, I'd take the vaccine.
- rimunroe 6y ago
  Indeed. My grandmother is 90 and got the vaccine yesterday, which was a huge relief to her and the rest of the family.
matthewmacleod 6y ago
Difference is you can't transmit a vaccine to someone else, isn't it?
rat87 6y ago
Why do you think the vaccine did it? Also fully Vaccinating is the only good way to end lockdowns. If you dislike lockdowns and want them to end and regular life to resume you should be be happy that we are Vaccinating and not make unsupported accusations
thebruce87m 6y ago
Older people dying is not the only reason for the shutdowns. Health care being overwhelmed is another main reason, and it’s not just old people that end up in hospital. The 45 - 64 age group has occupied the most hospital beds during the pandemic in my country (Scotland), and probably yours too if you dig out the stats.

craftinator 6y ago

> because it was our vaccine that did it What makes you think that

rubycon22 6y ago
It contributed to their deaths in the same way covid contributes to the death of someone with underlying conditions. Or what, will you say that it was the underlying conditions that killed them, and not covid? ;)
- rimunroe 6y ago
  How do you know it contributed to their death? How would it do so? There are clear ways underlying conditions can contribute to death by covid, but I’m not aware of any such thing with the vaccine.
- loopz 6y ago
  Very old people were not part of volunteer group, so this vaccine do have more severe side effects than extrapolated. They are changing the regime and skipping some of the frailest due to this. The vaccine will still provide protection for most.
- rat87 6y ago
  We don't know that We are pretty sure that Covid caused the vast majority of those excess deaths

rsynnott 6y ago

These appear to be elderly patients in care homes. The CFR if they get covid is pretty horrifying. If I was 90, I'd take the vaccine.

rimunroe 6y ago
Indeed. My grandmother is 90 and got the vaccine yesterday, which was a huge relief to her and the rest of the family.

matthewmacleod 6y ago

Difference is you can't transmit a vaccine to someone else, isn't it?

rat87 6y ago

Why do you think the vaccine did it? Also fully Vaccinating is the only good way to end lockdowns. If you dislike lockdowns and want them to end and regular life to resume you should be be happy that we are Vaccinating and not make unsupported accusations

thebruce87m 6y ago

Older people dying is not the only reason for the shutdowns. Health care being overwhelmed is another main reason, and it’s not just old people that end up in hospital. The 45 - 64 age group has occupied the most hospital beds during the pandemic in my country (Scotland), and probably yours too if you dig out the stats.