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Read into Georgism, I think that those communities might interest you

breck 6y ago
Thank you. You are not the first to mention Georgism to me, so I think there is something there and I am reading more and more about it, however I think I may be a bit too old for that and that might be even further ahead of my time. Another person talked to me about some type of new type of currency system, even further ahead of crypto, but again, probably too far ahead of my time. Each generation has their cause. I'm actually a strong proponent of real property rights. I think a legal assignment of responsibility over atoms is a good engineering solution to the problem of scarcity. My issue is just with "Intellectual Property" laws, which any 10 year old can quickly figure out is a complete oxymoron (You *cannot* have property laws and copyrights/patents—they are completely contradictory). When I talk to some younger folks about bigger new economic ideas, I do recognize that those things could be much more important, but frankly I'm much better geared at this point to try and tackle the #ImaginaryProperty problem (having worked on this for ~ 2 decades), and hopefully that will make things a bit better for the next generation, and then I'm hopeful the next generation will work on fixing the biggest inequities that are facing them, as countless generations before me have done.
- probinso 6y ago
  I expect that the interesting intersection for you will be the generalised position on abolition of monopolies. As copyrights and patents are monopolies on intellectual property, landownership is a monopoly on land. That the vocabulary, arguments, and culture around Georgism even without adopting policy on property monopolies, could be useful. Even though, I tend to like the land Monopoly policies in georgeism, I don't know if there is much value in being a purist in any ideology. That being said, the hacker in me is always trying to take an ideology and figure out how to break it. I imagine that that is a dominant philosophy in communities like this.
- probinso 6y ago
  Another place might be interesting is looking into "pirate party" organizations. Pirate party movements try to enforce natural economic restrictions on property. If it can be digitalized and distributed, then old market rules of supply and demand no longer apply. Pirate party groups aim to move towards market cost that reflects real-world restrictions of the market
  - breck 6y ago
    Great idea! If anyone knows of any particularly great organizers in the Pirate Party, please let me know!
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    - probinso 6y ago
      I know that one of the hosts of SrslyWrong used to be part of the Canadian pirate party. I love the content they put out, I do not know how involved they still are.

Thank you. You are not the first to mention Georgism to me, so I think there is something there and I am reading more and more about it, however I think I may be a bit too old for that and that might be even further ahead of my time. Another person talked to me about some type of new type of currency system, even further ahead of crypto, but again, probably too far ahead of my time. Each generation has their cause. I'm actually a strong proponent of real property rights. I think a legal assignment of responsibility over atoms is a good engineering solution to the problem of scarcity. My issue is just with "Intellectual Property" laws, which any 10 year old can quickly figure out is a complete oxymoron (You *cannot* have property laws and copyrights/patents—they are completely contradictory). When I talk to some younger folks about bigger new economic ideas, I do recognize that those things could be much more important, but frankly I'm much better geared at this point to try and tackle the #ImaginaryProperty problem (having worked on this for ~ 2 decades), and hopefully that will make things a bit better for the next generation, and then I'm hopeful the next generation will work on fixing the biggest inequities that are facing them, as countless generations before me have done.

probinso 6y ago
I expect that the interesting intersection for you will be the generalised position on abolition of monopolies. As copyrights and patents are monopolies on intellectual property, landownership is a monopoly on land. That the vocabulary, arguments, and culture around Georgism even without adopting policy on property monopolies, could be useful. Even though, I tend to like the land Monopoly policies in georgeism, I don't know if there is much value in being a purist in any ideology. That being said, the hacker in me is always trying to take an ideology and figure out how to break it. I imagine that that is a dominant philosophy in communities like this.
probinso 6y ago
Another place might be interesting is looking into "pirate party" organizations. Pirate party movements try to enforce natural economic restrictions on property. If it can be digitalized and distributed, then old market rules of supply and demand no longer apply. Pirate party groups aim to move towards market cost that reflects real-world restrictions of the market
- breck 6y ago
  Great idea! If anyone knows of any particularly great organizers in the Pirate Party, please let me know!
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - probinso 6y ago
    I know that one of the hosts of SrslyWrong used to be part of the Canadian pirate party. I love the content they put out, I do not know how involved they still are.