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Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking a

Yes and when AWS shuts them down and ISPs block them, they are free to make their own servers and ISPs. And when the financial system shuts down their banking and all of their family members' and public supporters' banking, they are free to create a new banking system as well (assuming they can pay the regulatory fees and have people lobbying for them of course)

nr2x 6y ago
As a brilliant billionaire businessman with three cable news networks behind him I’m sure he’ll survive.
- another_sock 6y ago
  Yes and I'm sure when all the standards for allowing people on the wrong side of public opinion are removed, that will never end up flipping around on the people who pushed for their removal.
  - coordN8 6y ago
    Point to a time in history where a truly egalitarian society existed Point to a time in history where you gave up all the creature comforts afforded to you by this nation’s imperialism. You’re a political agent raised on propaganda; everyone is. I don’t see you rocking the boat and picking a fight with the establishment? Why would Tim Apple or Dorsey, typical humans biologically, be held to a different standard? All the armchair soldiers in this thread are entitled first worlders. Literally no one here has achieved such a unique accomplishment to be above reproach. Sit down, America. Nobody really cares. They go along because bigger military.
tjr225 6y ago
I’m not even going to pretend you’re attempting to make an argument in good faith. One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.
- another_sock 6y ago
  I'm not throwing a slippery slope anything out. You are failing to see the interconnected nature of all of the things I mentioned. Twitter and all the big tech companies should be nationalized, but they won't be because like financial institutions they are more powerful than any government at this point. If you think this power trip all these companies are currently on is going to end with the bad orange man then you are not very well versed in history.
- kristofferR 6y ago
  It's not a ridiculous argument at all, Cloudflare already did it because the CEO "woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet" [1]. AWS is reportedly considering banning Parler. If this trend continues we'll soon have a completely balkanized internet where everyone lives in their own bubble and is banned from posting their viewpoints in the opposite bubble. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/cloudflares-ceo-has-a-plan-to-never-censor-hate-speech-again/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/cloudflares-ceo-...
  - courtf 6y ago
    These comments are hilarious, because people on the right vastly overestimate the size of their presence on the web. The traffic parler generates for AWS is a rounding error. It's like complaining about shutting down the old chuck e cheese on the interstate.
    - bigwavedave 6y ago
      > people on the right vastly overestimate the size of their presence on the web. Slightly off topic: This presents an interesting thought exercise- how would that stat be calculated? Does a dev with a github repo, Twitter account, and active account on a discord server have more or less of a presence on the web than a retiree with a Facebook account, two yahoos, and a google profile that frequently comments on the youtube videos they binge watch daily? Not disputing, just musing.
courtf 6y ago
You think they'll stop there?! The homeless shelters will start asking who you voted for. They'll start testing fetuses in the womb for Trumpist DNA. St Peter will meet you at the pearly gates with a scroll containing all your tweets, and it still won't be enough! The aliens running the simulation have already started checking each other's privilege!!
- another_sock 6y ago
  The funny thing is despite your mockery of my reply, literally all the things I've mentioned have already happened to people in real life. It's just a matter of time until it's well known and happening to very milquetoast people. Eventually it will be happening to people you agree with, and when it does, remember this comment.
  - courtf 6y ago
    Some of the people I agree with are dead, murdered by people you agree with. Cry my a river a tears about your fascist leader being kicked off Twitter. I'd fill a snow globe and keep it in my desk.
    - another_sock 6y ago
      I don't care about Trump being kicked off twitter. He is just a name that is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I also don't care about the people you agree with or how they ended up, although I do think it's funny that you seem to care about them and yet you are pushing for a similar environment that will end up with similar results.

nr2x 6y ago

As a brilliant billionaire businessman with three cable news networks behind him I’m sure he’ll survive.

another_sock 6y ago
Yes and I'm sure when all the standards for allowing people on the wrong side of public opinion are removed, that will never end up flipping around on the people who pushed for their removal.
- coordN8 6y ago
  Point to a time in history where a truly egalitarian society existed Point to a time in history where you gave up all the creature comforts afforded to you by this nation’s imperialism. You’re a political agent raised on propaganda; everyone is. I don’t see you rocking the boat and picking a fight with the establishment? Why would Tim Apple or Dorsey, typical humans biologically, be held to a different standard? All the armchair soldiers in this thread are entitled first worlders. Literally no one here has achieved such a unique accomplishment to be above reproach. Sit down, America. Nobody really cares. They go along because bigger military.

tjr225 6y ago

I’m not even going to pretend you’re attempting to make an argument in good faith. One could argue tech companies have a monopoly problem but you’re just saying a private company should allow anyone to say anything on their platform and throwing a ridiculous slippery slope out in front of it.

another_sock 6y ago
I'm not throwing a slippery slope anything out. You are failing to see the interconnected nature of all of the things I mentioned. Twitter and all the big tech companies should be nationalized, but they won't be because like financial institutions they are more powerful than any government at this point. If you think this power trip all these companies are currently on is going to end with the bad orange man then you are not very well versed in history.
kristofferR 6y ago
It's not a ridiculous argument at all, Cloudflare already did it because the CEO "woke up this morning in a bad mood and decided to kick them off the Internet" [1]. AWS is reportedly considering banning Parler. If this trend continues we'll soon have a completely balkanized internet where everyone lives in their own bubble and is banned from posting their viewpoints in the opposite bubble. [1] https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/cloudflares-ceo-has-a-plan-to-never-censor-hate-speech-again/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/cloudflares-ceo-...
- courtf 6y ago
  These comments are hilarious, because people on the right vastly overestimate the size of their presence on the web. The traffic parler generates for AWS is a rounding error. It's like complaining about shutting down the old chuck e cheese on the interstate.
  - bigwavedave 6y ago
    > people on the right vastly overestimate the size of their presence on the web. Slightly off topic: This presents an interesting thought exercise- how would that stat be calculated? Does a dev with a github repo, Twitter account, and active account on a discord server have more or less of a presence on the web than a retiree with a Facebook account, two yahoos, and a google profile that frequently comments on the youtube videos they binge watch daily? Not disputing, just musing.

courtf 6y ago

You think they'll stop there?! The homeless shelters will start asking who you voted for. They'll start testing fetuses in the womb for Trumpist DNA. St Peter will meet you at the pearly gates with a scroll containing all your tweets, and it still won't be enough! The aliens running the simulation have already started checking each other's privilege!!

another_sock 6y ago
The funny thing is despite your mockery of my reply, literally all the things I've mentioned have already happened to people in real life. It's just a matter of time until it's well known and happening to very milquetoast people. Eventually it will be happening to people you agree with, and when it does, remember this comment.
- courtf 6y ago
  Some of the people I agree with are dead, murdered by people you agree with. Cry my a river a tears about your fascist leader being kicked off Twitter. I'd fill a snow globe and keep it in my desk.
  - another_sock 6y ago
    I don't care about Trump being kicked off twitter. He is just a name that is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. I also don't care about the people you agree with or how they ended up, although I do think it's funny that you seem to care about them and yet you are pushing for a similar environment that will end up with similar results.