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Can you provide peer reviewed sources for your claim that critical race theory leads to lack of accountability?

by jetpks 6y ago

xienze 6y ago
Yes, the whole premise is "all your failures in life are because of racism and other privilege."
- viewer5 6y ago
  That wasn't peer-reviewed or even sourced
  - ldrndll 6y ago
    Let’s not let facts get in the way of some good old-fashioned racism shall we?
  - ryandrake 6y ago
    Unpopular opinion on HN, but asking for a peer-reviewed source during a casual forum discussion is kind of a lazy way to dismiss something. When you're chatting with your buddies over cocktails and they say something you disagree with, do you suddenly demand a peer-reviewed source and offer to drive them to the library so they can find the academic papers that back up their views?
TurkishPoptart 6y ago
I don't know if there's peer-reviewed sources about that claim in particular, but this is a topic that's being addressed often in media. Here's a popular book on this topic; I haven't read it yet, but I'd like to: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1634312023 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1634312023
meowkit 6y ago
CT/CRT promotes an external locus of control as the source of societal problems. In other words, its not the fault of the individual/human hardware its the fault of the patterns that society has entrenched aka systemic racism or the software of a culture. Its a top down theory/solution to what critics would argue is a bottom up problem. Individuals must be responsible for what they say, how they regulate their emotional state, and how their experiences and cognitive distortions skew their thinking. CT/CRT, by my understanding, argues against this. Thus it seems reasonable to say it leads to a lack of accountability if you define accountability as a responsibility for ones actions and beliefs. I’ve read a small bit on CT/CRT, intersectionality, and the modern culture of safetyism. Primarily from Haidt who has more peer reviewed sources on things than anyone could ever want. https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224897/ref=nodl_ https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Gen... https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777/ref=nodl_ https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Relig... I find CT/CRT to be compelling to a degree, but it brings along with it too much baggage in my opinion. You’re likely not going to find or be given a specific source of data that says CRT leads to lack of accountability (however you would measure that), its an assumption made by the previous poster. You don’t need one either to have a discussion, so don’t fall back on the lack of academic evidence as an argument in itself.

Can you provide peer reviewed sources for your claim that critical race theory leads to lack of accountability?

by jetpks 6y ago

Can you provide peer reviewed sources for your claim that critical race theory leads to lack of accountability?

xienze 6y ago

Yes, the whole premise is "all your failures in life are because of racism and other privilege."

viewer5 6y ago
That wasn't peer-reviewed or even sourced
- ldrndll 6y ago
  Let’s not let facts get in the way of some good old-fashioned racism shall we?
- ryandrake 6y ago
  Unpopular opinion on HN, but asking for a peer-reviewed source during a casual forum discussion is kind of a lazy way to dismiss something. When you're chatting with your buddies over cocktails and they say something you disagree with, do you suddenly demand a peer-reviewed source and offer to drive them to the library so they can find the academic papers that back up their views?

TurkishPoptart 6y ago

I don't know if there's peer-reviewed sources about that claim in particular, but this is a topic that's being addressed often in media. Here's a popular book on this topic; I haven't read it yet, but I'd like to: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1634312023 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1634312023

meowkit 6y ago

CT/CRT promotes an external locus of control as the source of societal problems. In other words, its not the fault of the individual/human hardware its the fault of the patterns that society has entrenched aka systemic racism or the software of a culture. Its a top down theory/solution to what critics would argue is a bottom up problem. Individuals must be responsible for what they say, how they regulate their emotional state, and how their experiences and cognitive distortions skew their thinking. CT/CRT, by my understanding, argues against this. Thus it seems reasonable to say it leads to a lack of accountability if you define accountability as a responsibility for ones actions and beliefs. I’ve read a small bit on CT/CRT, intersectionality, and the modern culture of safetyism. Primarily from Haidt who has more peer reviewed sources on things than anyone could ever want. https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Generation/dp/0735224897/ref=nodl_ https://www.amazon.com/Coddling-American-Mind-Intentions-Gen... https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion/dp/0307455777/ref=nodl_ https://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Relig... I find CT/CRT to be compelling to a degree, but it brings along with it too much baggage in my opinion. You’re likely not going to find or be given a specific source of data that says CRT leads to lack of accountability (however you would measure that), its an assumption made by the previous poster. You don’t need one either to have a discussion, so don’t fall back on the lack of academic evidence as an argument in itself.