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On the opposite, I'd say it's a great way to destroy your sleep routine and habits. As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep and cuddles with y

• mhh__ 6y ago
  What if my significant other is a copy of Misner, Thorne, and Wheeler?
  • jedimastert 6y ago
    We can't change who or how we love
  • slowmovintarget 6y ago
    The gravitational time dilation from proximity to the book does not work in your favor, better to leave it on the shelf while you sleep.
    • ISL 6y ago
      The book helps -- clocks deeper in a gravitational potential run slow relative to those higher in the potential. As I recall from Hartle, to paraphrase: "The experimentalists in the basement live longer than the theorists upstairs, but the view is worth it." My recollection from the associated problem is that the difference, over a lifetime, is microseconds. MTW won't give even that much aid :). Good luck with your studies; there's a lot to learn.
      • AnHonestComment 6y ago
        You have gravity right, but the impact reversed. By being lower in the gravity well, you get less sleep than if your clock had run faster.
• alisonkisk 6y ago
  Why does cuddle get an exemption? Why shouldn't we have s separate cuddle space so we can sleep soundly after?
• kaybe 6y ago
  Oohh look at these people with more than one room! (Ok it's valid for those.. but I'm still feeling a bit salty.)
  • goblin89 6y ago
    A recent problem for me: I have only one room to myself, and prefer to keep work out of it. I am used to working outside from cafes, esp. coffeeshops, rotating my surroundings little by little. As of late, though, all relevant establishments are shut down in the vicinity, which disrupts both my work and sleep schedule. Of course, I understand the need for such measures. Hopefully I’ll manage to continue consulting through this without losing a customer.
  • Raphmedia 6y ago
    I believe that even working on a small desk next to your bed would be better than working directly from the bed.
    • fastball 6y ago
      I really don't think we have enough evidence to backup this assertion.
      • Raphmedia 6y ago
        We know that having a dedicated sleeping space contributes to the quality of sleep, but there are no studies on the size and boundaries required to create that space. Using the bed as a workspace means you're bringing your work with you to bed. You completely erase any possibility of separation between workspace and sleep space. With only one bedroom available, your only way to assign a dedicated sleeping space is to use your bed to sleep and a desk to work. Throwing in some anecdotal opinion, I live in a studio style open apartment and have no issue sleeping well in my bed even if I can see my workspace. I however had issues sleeping back when I lived in a smaller apartment and used the bed as my main computer space. Is it objectively better or worst? There's no study backing either theories. However, I believe that even working on a small desk next to your bed would be better than working directly from the bed. Otherwise you'd be effectively training yourself to think about work while lying down in the comfort of your sleeping area, instead of training yourself to fall asleep and relax.
• devilduck 6y ago
  All those references and that stuff still isn't true for everyone. How can this be?
• andybak 6y ago
  I have a perfectly good sleep routine. It's just that it involves a laptop, a mobile phone, a tablet and occasionally a VR headset.
• gopalv 6y ago
  > As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep CGP Grey had a pretty good video about living in the lockdown titled "Spaceship you". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snAhsXyO3Ck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snAhsXyO3Ck I'd say that a lot of work that isn't really work can be done from bed, but it does mess up your training for "bed == sleep". I used to work from bed before 2020, but the lockdown has made the "walk downstairs to work, grab a coffee along the way" into a natural thing rather than putting a number of other high attention activities (shaving, driving) between being awake-enough to sitting at my desk.
  • st1x7 6y ago
    This is also #1 in Grey's "7 Ways to Maximize Misery" Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO1mTELoj6o
    • f69281c 6y ago
      I've been institutionalized for suicidal depression a few times and aside from endorsing that video, I wanted to hijack your position in the comment hierarchy to express that a scary thing about the linked article is that a lot of people aren't going to get any counter-information; they're just going to get nudged into a lifestyle that they'll probably contemplate sweet release from at some point. Every once in a while I see an article from a major publication that makes me recoil. And I don't know how to express it but the fact that someone's gonna kill themself (long) after following the article's advice isn't the worst part of it at all. Most people don't actually kill themselves, they just desperately want out of a situation they can't convey to anyone, can't fix on their own, and makes no sense. It's like if someone's house got robbed and they got beaten into a hospital bed on every prime-numbered day of the month, but no one told them those rules and no one believed them when they talked about it. The day that poor bastard got fed up, burned their house down, and just started walking would be better than the thirty days before that, even excluding prime-numbered ones. Anyway I'll be holding my breath for an apology article from the new york times so I guess I'll see you on the other side
  • dumbfoundded 6y ago
• echlebek 6y ago
  It's also a great way to destroy your neck and back. If you thought you had problems with ergonomics at your desk, it will be way worse typing away in a bed.
  • chasd00 6y ago
    yeah I can't imagine 8 hrs of coding from a bed. i have bad posture and even I know that would be bad news.
    • hrktb 6y ago
      TBF, coding 8 hrs in any single posture is bad for you.
• colmvp 6y ago
  > cuddles with your significant other Not all of us, especially those living in endless lockdowns, have the privilege of having an SO lol
• themodelplumber 6y ago
  Nitpick: "are related"..."may reduce"...these are links, not causation. I tested this myself and found A) my sleep did not get any worse when I worked from bed and B) if anything, it got better, especially during times of illness, because I was able to get some important things done at the higher-energy highs and this in turn helped me get better sleep later. IMO the bed and laying down in general is a great place to do mental activities including work tasks. I continue to get great results from planning (incl. pseudocoding) while laying down. Anecdata, but I'm noticing that a lot of people aren't testing this themselves, just trusting somebody else's bell curve, along which they may actually plot at any given point.
• devwastaken 6y ago
  Having a seperate office for work helps significantly in seperating your habits. I would imagine a bed office might do the same, though obviously having health repercussions.
• jjice 6y ago
  When I was in middle school (early 2010s), I can't tell you how much time I spent on social media at night on my phone in bed. I swear I must've gotten 4-5 hours of sleep on average. Somewhere around my senior year of high school I started placing my phone across the room instead of lying in bed with it. Who would have guess that my sleep improved drastically. I never go to bed with technology.
• axguscbklp 6y ago
  I've been using computers in bed for many years and as far as I can tell, I have no problems whatsoever with sleeping. Sometimes I stay up late surfing the web and then don't get enough sleep because I have to wake up the next morning to do some bullshit, but I'd do the same thing if I was sitting in a chair - I don't surf the the web at night because my computer devices tempt me into doing it, I do it because it's fun.
• musicale 6y ago
  > As a rule of thumb, your bed should be dedicated to sleep and cuddles with your significant other. Sounds like the first sentence of the article: > For years, sleep experts have held one piece of common wisdom above all else: that devices have no place in the bedroom.
• hrktb 6y ago
  That's addressed in the article: > A primary argument against using devices in bed is that it can further erode the boundaries between work and home, and disrupt your sleep cycle. Basically the adjustment is to rebuild routines and habits surrounding the new use cycle of the bed. So, it's not trivial, but not a biological limitation nor something that can't be managed.