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The reality is that today in southern california, ICUs are at capacity. Most people end up ok. My whole family got it and had basically just congestion for two
by wasdfff 6y ago
The reality is that today in southern california, ICUs are at capacity. Most people end up ok. My whole family got it and had basically just congestion for two weeks, including the 90 year old ancients we though were sure goners when they contracted it (we just turned up their oxygen and they were feeling a lot better).
That being said, enough people do need medical care, and thats enough people to entirely burden our capacity to treat any sort of medical emergency, and cases are still going up. It’s not good right now.
- djsumdog 6y agoCalifornia had some of the strongest lockdowns and stay-at-home orders of any state and they're still having ICU issues, meanwhile Florida is not? Tennessee has similar policies to Florida and they have high cases .. Sweden has meanwhile dropped to zero. If you really look across the board at all countries, there is ZERO corroboration between any of these arbitrary measures and the results. It's all complete random superstition nonsense. COVID response is a new religions ideology, and ideology is "doing without knowing." Also, why are ICU beds at capacity? Is it all COVID, or tons of people who didn't get the heart surgery they needed? Your own experiences show that your family survived this and likely has long term immunity (and will continue to do so as long as they get exposed at regular intervals). The alternate reality is that the virus is real, but the way we've reacted to it will kill more people in the long term. I wrote about this back in March, COVID19 is two diseases. The virus and our over-reaction to it: https://battlepenguin.com/philosophy/covid-19-is-two-diseases/ https://battlepenguin.com/philosophy/covid-19-is-two-disease...
- oblio 6y agoCheck out newer sources for that Sweden claim. They've both admitted that the strategy failed plus their measures are now at least equivalent to those of their neighbors. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSkGkmY9FcM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SSkGkmY9FcM
- IgorPartola 6y agoYou are so wrong about this I am not even sure how to start. It’s like trying to explain physics to a goldfish. We just can’t understand this for you.
- djsumdog 6y agoI have a masters degree and three publications. I'm not a fool or an idiot. Your attack is an ad hominem and your divisiveness is patronizing. "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle
- cycrutchfield 6y agoYour credentials aren’t what prevent you from being a fool or an idiot. However, your bizarre beliefs surely put you in that category.
- djsumdog 6y agoI'm not a fool or an idiot, and those types or attacks are not allowed on HN. You don't know a damn thing about me. I don't know about you either. You're not even addressing the argument.
- cycrutchfield 6y agoyour argument has been addressed dozens of times. your credentials are meaningless. seek help, you clearly need it
- djsumdog 6y agoAccusing me of mental illness is against HN rules, not to mention it makes you look like an asshole. Just because an argument has been "addressed" doesn't make it wrong. Your dismissal shows your religion devotion to your viewpoint. Maybe I'm religiously devoted to mine too at this point. If anything, it shows neither of us can be objective. You just wanted to get the last word in. It furthers my belief you're an asshole.
- standardUser 6y ago"If you really look across the board at all countries, there is ZERO corroboration between any of these arbitrary measures and the results. " Care to link a published study or a report from a reputable agency? Because it sounds like this is just your hunch.