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Hm, well I've got to work out how to get off that list! Thanks for giving me the heads up. EDIT: I'm not sure quite how to deal with being put on ad lists. S

Hm, well I've got to work out how to get off that list! Thanks for giving me the heads up. EDIT: I'm not sure quite how to deal with being put on ad lists. Sure, people can upload any file to our host so it's plausible that someone, at some point, has uploaded an advert. Someone could also redirect to an advert domain and we'd have no way to really deal with that unless it was reported. Ideas are welcome for solutions.

Hnrobert42 6y ago
Just some thoughts: 1. Reach out to the list maintainer to see why your site was added. 2. Create a blocklist comprised of those ad lists. Don’t redirect to sites on the blocklist. 3. (Of dubious practical value) Create a Terms of Service that says users may not use your to link to advertisements.
- Merman_Mike 6y ago
  +1 to the second suggestion as a low-effort way to make some headway in staying off blocklists. A place to start might be this large, very popular list that combines a bunch of other lists: https://oisd.nl/ https://oisd.nl/ Actual text file is here (large file warning): https://hosts.oisd.nl/ https://hosts.oisd.nl/ Just prevent your service from shortening links to any of those domains.
  - rndomsrmn 6y ago
    You might want to consider checking for hosts listed in https://github.com/notracking/hosts-blocklists https://github.com/notracking/hosts-blocklists This is an excellent merged blocklist, with public whitelist (oisd is fully closed, no insight in what is whitelisted and why, also causing more false positives..)
    - sjhgvr 6y ago
      No longer the case: https://oisd.nl/excludes.php https://oisd.nl/excludes.php
      - llacb47 6y ago
        Right on time, sjhgvr can't allow his rep to be (rightly) blemished on any corner of the internet.
- TylerE 6y ago
  > 3. (Of dubious practical value) Create a Terms of Service that says users may not use your to link to advertisements. That seems entirely unenforceable. Aren't ALL websites ultimately advertisements?
  - recursive 6y ago
    > Aren't ALL websites ultimately advertisements? No. Some are just information, art, or what-have-you. Here's one I just found now. https://aaron.axvigs.com/ https://aaron.axvigs.com/
    - TylerE 6y ago
      That could still be considered an advertisement of his existence and writing skills. If the goal is purely informational, why is the author's name attached? The site also advertises the CMS it runs on. That's my point, by a reasonable standard, ANY site that exists is an advertisement for something or other, thus a rule saying "no linking to advertisements" is worse than useless.
      - kortilla 6y ago
        This must be the mindset it takes to work in the ad tech industry. Ads are sort of like porn. There are lots of things you certainly know serve no other purpose than to advertise something and you can block them outright. Native advertising is certainly difficult though.
        TylerE 6y ago
        Do not work, nor I have I ever worked, in ad tech.
      - recursive 6y ago
        I guess you have a different understanding of what "advertising" is than the general understanding.
Moru 6y ago
For me the problem is that you hide URL's that I can click on and have no idea where I end up. So I block all url-shorteners as a principle on my pi-hole.

Hnrobert42 6y ago

Just some thoughts: 1. Reach out to the list maintainer to see why your site was added. 2. Create a blocklist comprised of those ad lists. Don’t redirect to sites on the blocklist. 3. (Of dubious practical value) Create a Terms of Service that says users may not use your to link to advertisements.

Merman_Mike 6y ago
+1 to the second suggestion as a low-effort way to make some headway in staying off blocklists. A place to start might be this large, very popular list that combines a bunch of other lists: https://oisd.nl/ https://oisd.nl/ Actual text file is here (large file warning): https://hosts.oisd.nl/ https://hosts.oisd.nl/ Just prevent your service from shortening links to any of those domains.
- rndomsrmn 6y ago
  You might want to consider checking for hosts listed in https://github.com/notracking/hosts-blocklists https://github.com/notracking/hosts-blocklists This is an excellent merged blocklist, with public whitelist (oisd is fully closed, no insight in what is whitelisted and why, also causing more false positives..)
  - sjhgvr 6y ago
    No longer the case: https://oisd.nl/excludes.php https://oisd.nl/excludes.php
    - llacb47 6y ago
      Right on time, sjhgvr can't allow his rep to be (rightly) blemished on any corner of the internet.
TylerE 6y ago
> 3. (Of dubious practical value) Create a Terms of Service that says users may not use your to link to advertisements. That seems entirely unenforceable. Aren't ALL websites ultimately advertisements?
- recursive 6y ago
  > Aren't ALL websites ultimately advertisements? No. Some are just information, art, or what-have-you. Here's one I just found now. https://aaron.axvigs.com/ https://aaron.axvigs.com/
  - TylerE 6y ago
    That could still be considered an advertisement of his existence and writing skills. If the goal is purely informational, why is the author's name attached? The site also advertises the CMS it runs on. That's my point, by a reasonable standard, ANY site that exists is an advertisement for something or other, thus a rule saying "no linking to advertisements" is worse than useless.
    - kortilla 6y ago
      This must be the mindset it takes to work in the ad tech industry. Ads are sort of like porn. There are lots of things you certainly know serve no other purpose than to advertise something and you can block them outright. Native advertising is certainly difficult though.
      - TylerE 6y ago
        Do not work, nor I have I ever worked, in ad tech.
    - recursive 6y ago
      I guess you have a different understanding of what "advertising" is than the general understanding.

Moru 6y ago

For me the problem is that you hide URL's that I can click on and have no idea where I end up. So I block all url-shorteners as a principle on my pi-hole.