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To concur: My laptop running Windows hangs periodically requiring a hard reset... if I watch Hulu on Chrome. At least twice a week and sometimes multiple times

To concur: My laptop running Windows hangs periodically requiring a hard reset... if I watch Hulu on Chrome. At least twice a week and sometimes multiple times a day. At least Windows in the 90s had the decency to put up a blue screen — now it just hard crashes without any display or debugging information. Telemetry and forced updates are a slap in the face on top of the quality regressions.

posperson 6y ago
Microsoft fired their Quality Assurance staff, hence the regressions in reliability: https://www.ghacks.net/2019/09/23/former-microsoft-employee-explains-why-bugs-in-windows-updates-increased/ https://www.ghacks.net/2019/09/23/former-microsoft-employee-...
- AnHonestComment 6y ago
  I somehow missed that — thanks for sharing!
chinhodado 6y ago
That sounds like a hardware or driver thing, specifically related to GPU, rather than a Windows issue. You can try to disable hardware acceleration in Chrome.
- AnHonestComment 6y ago
  Sure, could be. My testing pointed towards a DRM problem, since it doesn’t happen with other video streaming or with rendering outside the particular Chrome + Hulu combination. My point is two-fold: 1. Even if the driver crashes, the OS should blue screen (like it used to) rather than just hard freeze the machine. 2. Using an HP laptop with Windows and Chrome to view Hulu is so mainstream it should “just work” — so it’s a sign of industry breakdown it doesn’t.
stinos 6y ago
At least Windows in the 90s had the decency to put up a blue screen This sounds like back then there were only crashes with a blue screen (and dump), and currently there's only hard crashes without blue screen. Both of them are not true. I.e. there are apparently types crashes for which it hasn't been possible in the past decades to come up with a bluescreen, othiing new there. It is just as likely, maybe even moe so, the difference in your particular case is your hardware/driver. It's of course possible there were effectively changes at the OS level in how hard faults are dealt with, but I wouldn't just assume so.
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posperson 6y ago

Microsoft fired their Quality Assurance staff, hence the regressions in reliability: https://www.ghacks.net/2019/09/23/former-microsoft-employee-explains-why-bugs-in-windows-updates-increased/ https://www.ghacks.net/2019/09/23/former-microsoft-employee-...

AnHonestComment 6y ago
I somehow missed that — thanks for sharing!

chinhodado 6y ago

That sounds like a hardware or driver thing, specifically related to GPU, rather than a Windows issue. You can try to disable hardware acceleration in Chrome.

AnHonestComment 6y ago
Sure, could be. My testing pointed towards a DRM problem, since it doesn’t happen with other video streaming or with rendering outside the particular Chrome + Hulu combination. My point is two-fold: 1. Even if the driver crashes, the OS should blue screen (like it used to) rather than just hard freeze the machine. 2. Using an HP laptop with Windows and Chrome to view Hulu is so mainstream it should “just work” — so it’s a sign of industry breakdown it doesn’t.

stinos 6y ago

At least Windows in the 90s had the decency to put up a blue screen This sounds like back then there were only crashes with a blue screen (and dump), and currently there's only hard crashes without blue screen. Both of them are not true. I.e. there are apparently types crashes for which it hasn't been possible in the past decades to come up with a bluescreen, othiing new there. It is just as likely, maybe even moe so, the difference in your particular case is your hardware/driver. It's of course possible there were effectively changes at the OS level in how hard faults are dealt with, but I wouldn't just assume so.

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