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> they hate controversy even more. Did you come from the Berenstein Bears universe? Apple does unpopular things constantly. The iPhone 12 doesn't come with a c
by typenil 6y ago
> they hate controversy even more.
Did you come from the Berenstein Bears universe? Apple does unpopular things constantly. The iPhone 12 doesn't come with a charger, and you think they're terrified of controversy?
Apple's MO is to double down on controversy.
- enos_feedler 6y agoI don’t think its to double down on controversy but to not be afraid to make product changes they believe in despite the predictable ensuing controversy.
- macintux 6y agoRight. Apple commits to a direction and rarely changes course, which could be perceived as doubling down on controversy if you happen to think their motives are ill. I’ve long felt Apple is a Rorschach test. How you feel about the company and its products often says more about your priorities than the company itself.
- LocalH 6y agoHonestly, this can often (but not always) be true regarding social or political views, as well. Something about the ego projecting onto the external world.
- enos_feedler 6y agoCould you give an example of an ill motive?
- fakedang 6y agoExtracting profit under the guise of environmental activism, which actually ends up causing the opposite effect? I mean, the charger fiasco just happened... Likewise there are many examples of how Apple works against the public interest.
- macintux 6y agoWhen Apple stopped supplying chargers, they also dropped the prices on chargers. That's the kind of thing I mean: soundbite analysis of Apple's policies makes it very easy to cast them as the big baddies.
- nacs 6y agoAlso Huawei and Samsung are now doing the same thing with no models -- no chargers. As with most "controversial" things Apple does, like removing the headphone jack, the other companies then follow suit.
- fakedang 6y agoBecause Apple is a prime example of a money grab. Once other companies see the profit motive, they too decide to join the bandwagon. It's not like they saw some environmental positive and decided to act.
- enos_feedler 6y agoDo you think other companies suddenly see a profit motive because Apple does something? I think it's an insult to other vendors if you think they can't come up with an idea like "don't include a charger". Obviously everyone has the idea. You need to understand Apple's position in the market vs. everyone else to know why Apple goes first. Apple's retention is off the charts. If you are Xiaomi, you can't give your user any reason to buy an iPhone or you've lost them forever. It would be suicide for other vendors to take these kinds of ticky tack steps first.
- fakedang 6y agoSo if the prices dropped, that's supposed to be a good thing for the environment? Tell me exactly how?
- nacs 6y ago> The iPhone 12 doesn't come with a charger Both Huawei and Samsung are also not shipping chargers in new models (both of which made fun of Apple for not doing so at first).