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And awkward as hell too. Maccheroni is a shape of pasta, but apparently all pasta is "enriched macaroni" in the US?

freeone3000 6y ago
Yes. Spaghetti is a type of enriched macaroni, according to the FDA.
ajuc 6y ago
Kiełbasa and Pierogi are whole classes of products but in US kiełbasa is a particular kind of Polish sousage and pierogi basically means ruskie pierogi. That's how foreign languages work. In Polish "rower" means "a bicycle" because british company Rover sold them here first :) In Russian and Ukrainian vogzal means "train station" because there was a famous train station in Vauxhal :)
- NullPrefix 6y ago
  >In Russian and Ukrainian vogzal means "train station" because there was a famous train station in Vauxhal You can't be serious. Post proof.
  - ajuc 6y ago
    There's competing theories but all come from Vauxhall. Either train station or gardens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall#In_the_Russian_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall#In_the_Russian_langua...
    - NullPrefix 6y ago
      Thanks
- Metacelsus 6y ago
  >In Polish "rower" means "a bicycle" because british company Rover sold them here first Wait really?! I'm learning Polish and I was wondering about this.
- legerdemain 6y ago
  Another fun one: the word for "marker" (i.e., a felt-tipped pen for drawing) is "фломастер," from the brand Flo-Master. Although, given the way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if the word was now "шарпи." Surprisingly, the art supply brand Caran d'Ache is from the Russian "карандаш" and not vice versa. The Ukrainian for "pencil" simply comes from the word for the metal tin, which, like lead metal, was in use for styluses used in drawing before the discovery of graphite.
  - ajuc 6y ago
    In Polish: "flamaster" (thin marker for writing) vs "marker" (thick semitransparent marker for highlighting text). And pencil is "ołówek" (ołów = lead).
teorema 6y ago
"Macaroni" is a very old synonym for "pasta". It used to have a different broader meaning than the shape.
- Carioca 6y ago
  In (Brazilian) Portuguese, all pasta is called "macarrão", no doubt from the old Italian word
- jacobolus 6y ago
  E.g. the French "macaron" comes from this Italian word.
- mejutoco 6y ago
  To add a couple more examples; in polish "Makaron" is all pasta (same as above), while in German "Nudeln" (noodles) is also synonymous with all pasta (even maccaroni!).
tclancy 6y ago
Probably a case of semantic narrowing.

Yes. Spaghetti is a type of enriched macaroni, according to the FDA.

ajuc 6y ago

Kiełbasa and Pierogi are whole classes of products but in US kiełbasa is a particular kind of Polish sousage and pierogi basically means ruskie pierogi. That's how foreign languages work. In Polish "rower" means "a bicycle" because british company Rover sold them here first :) In Russian and Ukrainian vogzal means "train station" because there was a famous train station in Vauxhal :)

NullPrefix 6y ago
>In Russian and Ukrainian vogzal means "train station" because there was a famous train station in Vauxhal You can't be serious. Post proof.
- ajuc 6y ago
  There's competing theories but all come from Vauxhall. Either train station or gardens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall#In_the_Russian_language https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall#In_the_Russian_langua...
  - NullPrefix 6y ago
    Thanks
Metacelsus 6y ago
>In Polish "rower" means "a bicycle" because british company Rover sold them here first Wait really?! I'm learning Polish and I was wondering about this.
legerdemain 6y ago
Another fun one: the word for "marker" (i.e., a felt-tipped pen for drawing) is "фломастер," from the brand Flo-Master. Although, given the way things are going, it wouldn't surprise me if the word was now "шарпи." Surprisingly, the art supply brand Caran d'Ache is from the Russian "карандаш" and not vice versa. The Ukrainian for "pencil" simply comes from the word for the metal tin, which, like lead metal, was in use for styluses used in drawing before the discovery of graphite.
- ajuc 6y ago
  In Polish: "flamaster" (thin marker for writing) vs "marker" (thick semitransparent marker for highlighting text). And pencil is "ołówek" (ołów = lead).

teorema 6y ago

"Macaroni" is a very old synonym for "pasta". It used to have a different broader meaning than the shape.

Carioca 6y ago
In (Brazilian) Portuguese, all pasta is called "macarrão", no doubt from the old Italian word
jacobolus 6y ago
E.g. the French "macaron" comes from this Italian word.
mejutoco 6y ago
To add a couple more examples; in polish "Makaron" is all pasta (same as above), while in German "Nudeln" (noodles) is also synonymous with all pasta (even maccaroni!).

tclancy 6y ago

Probably a case of semantic narrowing.