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Do you have evidence of the claim that mask mandates don't work? Not trolling - I'm genuinely interested. My understanding was that masks worked to reduce trans

by aynsof 6y ago

Do you have evidence of the claim that mask mandates don't work? Not trolling - I'm genuinely interested. My understanding was that masks worked to reduce transmission.

hammock 6y ago
Here is a list of 24 published papers that demonstrate lockdowns not working, in various forms including mask mandates. https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-coronavirus-the-evidence/ https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-co... Here is a new study (not published) that suggests mask mandates are counterproductive https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1340725086278434821?s=19 https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1340725086278434821?s... Would be nice if the mainstream media covered any of this.
- aynsof 6y ago
  Thanks for the reading. I'm checking it out now.
- free652 6y ago
  Except if you read the papers they aren't saying that. You are trying to spread BS here. We can take a look at China where the lockdown worked quiet well. >Official data from Germany’s RKI agency suggest strongly that the spread of the coronavirus in Germany receded autonomously, before any interventions became effective >From both sets of modelling, we found that closure of education facilities, prohibiting mass gatherings and closure of some non-essential businesses were associated with reduced incidence whereas stay at home orders and closure of all non-businesses was not associated with any independent additional impact >Conclusions: A national lockdown has a moderate advantage in saving lives
- tasty_freeze 6y ago
  AIER is a libertarian think tank which exists solely to reduce any type of government "interference" in freedom. I don't trust them to be honest arbiters of science -- their sole angle is people and companies should be free to do whatever they want (including infecting other people apparently). Yes, you provided a link to a site which has links to 24 other papers. Providing proof in this case required you to cut and past a URL; you are asking me to read and rebut 24 papers, and I'm not about to. However, I did look them up and the wikipedia article about them [1] said the scientific community has condemned their positions on COVID, which is herd immunity -- everyone should get sick, we should live with 3M deaths in the US, so businesses can get back to selling stuff like normal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Institute_for_Economic_Research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Institute_for_Economi...

by aynsof 6y ago

Do you have evidence of the claim that mask mandates don't work? Not trolling - I'm genuinely interested. My understanding was that masks worked to reduce transmission.

hammock 6y ago

Here is a list of 24 published papers that demonstrate lockdowns not working, in various forms including mask mandates. https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-coronavirus-the-evidence/ https://www.aier.org/article/lockdowns-do-not-control-the-co... Here is a new study (not published) that suggests mask mandates are counterproductive https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1340725086278434821?s=19 https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1340725086278434821?s... Would be nice if the mainstream media covered any of this.

aynsof 6y ago
Thanks for the reading. I'm checking it out now.
free652 6y ago
Except if you read the papers they aren't saying that. You are trying to spread BS here. We can take a look at China where the lockdown worked quiet well. >Official data from Germany’s RKI agency suggest strongly that the spread of the coronavirus in Germany receded autonomously, before any interventions became effective >From both sets of modelling, we found that closure of education facilities, prohibiting mass gatherings and closure of some non-essential businesses were associated with reduced incidence whereas stay at home orders and closure of all non-businesses was not associated with any independent additional impact >Conclusions: A national lockdown has a moderate advantage in saving lives
tasty_freeze 6y ago
AIER is a libertarian think tank which exists solely to reduce any type of government "interference" in freedom. I don't trust them to be honest arbiters of science -- their sole angle is people and companies should be free to do whatever they want (including infecting other people apparently). Yes, you provided a link to a site which has links to 24 other papers. Providing proof in this case required you to cut and past a URL; you are asking me to read and rebut 24 papers, and I'm not about to. However, I did look them up and the wikipedia article about them [1] said the scientific community has condemned their positions on COVID, which is herd immunity -- everyone should get sick, we should live with 3M deaths in the US, so businesses can get back to selling stuff like normal. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Institute_for_Economic_Research https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Institute_for_Economi...