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that is super interesting Waiting for when they realize there is a silent agreement between Amazon + Google + Facebook and that they do coordinated attacks ag

that is super interesting Waiting for when they realize there is a silent agreement between Amazon + Google + Facebook and that they do coordinated attacks against their rivals and also against any company that is growing quickly

LanceH 6y ago
The Sherman Act is brilliant. High prices - gouging. Low prices - stifling competition. Same prices - collusion. It simply doesn't allow for any sort of equilibrium.
- JoeAltmaier 6y ago
  Thats so reductionist as to be meaningless? Prices are a continuum, and have more values than 'high, low, same'.
- dhruvarora013 6y ago
  Aren't you missing the biggest point of the Act? The free market equilibrium that you mention is what it seeks to correct. It's not about the prices but the monopolization it attempts to break. If there is only a single entity dictating the prices in the market, then it doesn't matter what the price spectrum is - the motive is anti-free market
ramphastidae 6y ago
Can you give any examples of coordination against competitors besides the Apple wage fixing scandal?
- switch11 6y ago
  This thread has several I'll add a few (while including a couple from this thread) Let's see 1) Google Facebook - why was Google+ ignored and shut down 2) Why has Facebook never launched a search engine 3) Amazon + Google Why has Google completely ignored books and not done anything? They grew Chrome into #1 browser using Search dominance Why the heck have they ignored books? Why did they buy Oyster (the first ebook subscription service for Apple devices) and immediately shut it down paving the way for Kindle Unlimited to become the dominant 4) Why did Amazon shut down A9 its search engine? Every other area they are willing to throw billions of dollars. In search engines they didn't even try 5) Amazon + Google why is Google ignoring Shopping why did Google buy one of the biggest AFfiliate Networks and then close it down 6) Amazon + Google Why is Amazon so high up in search results for every single @##$ product review and product Does it have to do with amount of money Amazon spends on Google Ads (which would also be illegal) or a secret/silent agreement (even more illegal) 7) When companies or organization get attacked (such as corporate organizations) how is it that it is always a PINCER attack and always at the same time i.e. Google will 'demonetize' the site at the same time as Youtube demonetizes the ads (Youtube is still owned by Google) as Paypal will kick out the site (separate company, acts in concert) as Twitter will block accounts So 3 separate companies and 4 separate divisions all decide on EXACT SAME DAY to go after a company or a site This playbook is used to attack both a) republican/conservative sites b) companies that are growing very fast to that throw in Facebook 8) Why do fast growing companies that are a threat to ONE out of Amazon, Google, Facebook all suddenly face shadow bans AT THE SAME TIME from all three companies i.e. products dropped in Amazon Store search organic traffic from Google drops Facebook reach drops * There is someone/something World X Council or something And some companies are apart of it They have divided out parts of the Internet And when someone is a threat to grow too big ALL companies attack that fast growing companies They have a hitlist of 10,000 or 5,000 companies to keep an eye on and 500 biggest threats and they go after these IN CONCERT
  - ramphastidae 6y ago
    Got it. So you have literally zero examples besides your wild, baseless speculation.

LanceH 6y ago

The Sherman Act is brilliant. High prices - gouging. Low prices - stifling competition. Same prices - collusion. It simply doesn't allow for any sort of equilibrium.

JoeAltmaier 6y ago
Thats so reductionist as to be meaningless? Prices are a continuum, and have more values than 'high, low, same'.
dhruvarora013 6y ago
Aren't you missing the biggest point of the Act? The free market equilibrium that you mention is what it seeks to correct. It's not about the prices but the monopolization it attempts to break. If there is only a single entity dictating the prices in the market, then it doesn't matter what the price spectrum is - the motive is anti-free market

ramphastidae 6y ago

Can you give any examples of coordination against competitors besides the Apple wage fixing scandal?

switch11 6y ago
This thread has several I'll add a few (while including a couple from this thread) Let's see 1) Google Facebook - why was Google+ ignored and shut down 2) Why has Facebook never launched a search engine 3) Amazon + Google Why has Google completely ignored books and not done anything? They grew Chrome into #1 browser using Search dominance Why the heck have they ignored books? Why did they buy Oyster (the first ebook subscription service for Apple devices) and immediately shut it down paving the way for Kindle Unlimited to become the dominant 4) Why did Amazon shut down A9 its search engine? Every other area they are willing to throw billions of dollars. In search engines they didn't even try 5) Amazon + Google why is Google ignoring Shopping why did Google buy one of the biggest AFfiliate Networks and then close it down 6) Amazon + Google Why is Amazon so high up in search results for every single @##$ product review and product Does it have to do with amount of money Amazon spends on Google Ads (which would also be illegal) or a secret/silent agreement (even more illegal) 7) When companies or organization get attacked (such as corporate organizations) how is it that it is always a PINCER attack and always at the same time i.e. Google will 'demonetize' the site at the same time as Youtube demonetizes the ads (Youtube is still owned by Google) as Paypal will kick out the site (separate company, acts in concert) as Twitter will block accounts So 3 separate companies and 4 separate divisions all decide on EXACT SAME DAY to go after a company or a site This playbook is used to attack both a) republican/conservative sites b) companies that are growing very fast to that throw in Facebook 8) Why do fast growing companies that are a threat to ONE out of Amazon, Google, Facebook all suddenly face shadow bans AT THE SAME TIME from all three companies i.e. products dropped in Amazon Store search organic traffic from Google drops Facebook reach drops * There is someone/something World X Council or something And some companies are apart of it They have divided out parts of the Internet And when someone is a threat to grow too big ALL companies attack that fast growing companies They have a hitlist of 10,000 or 5,000 companies to keep an eye on and 500 biggest threats and they go after these IN CONCERT
- ramphastidae 6y ago
  Got it. So you have literally zero examples besides your wild, baseless speculation.