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Your link and comment has absolutely nothing to do with what I wrote.

throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
You said > Imagine if the Soviet Union had made endless TV series and movies about the heroic deeds of the KGB OK, where did I get it wrong.
- pmachinery2 6y ago
  You replied with something that has absolutely nothing to do with: a) the Soviet Union b) TV shows and movies from the Soviet Union c) the KGB What is it you seem to think you got right? [Apparently my post about the CIA is so important/controversial I am now "posting to fast" AKA banned or at least prevented from replying with my account. What a fucking joke.]
  - throw2012071056 6y ago
    I am pretty sure that there are CIA shills that's trawling through these boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice
    - throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
      Sure, but I'm a brit. See my past posts. (and btw no chance of russians doing the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino thing is there. Or those these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot doing it for them)
      - throw2012071056 6y ago
        > Sure, but I'm a brit. See my past posts. I am not doubting you being an CIA shill, in fact, I'd give everyone the shadow of a doubt that they are NOT shill. But my point is more towards the fact that I find these boards to be very much influencing people to one specific type of ideology, rather than to provide evidence and have other people having a greater understanding of the matter (which I always assume is what HN is supposed to be). Incidentally, I find it funny that while on US platforms, people call themselves Brit, whereas no one in the UK calls themselves that.
        throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
        There are shills for various nationalities, chinese, us, russian and (probably a few) brit as well. > I find these boards to be very much influencing people to one specific type of ideology, I find the opposite, a few biased ones and a decent number of independent thinkers. > I find it funny that while on US platforms, people call themselves Brit, whereas no one in the UK calls themselves that. Are you implying I'm not actually a brit but faking one? Londoner, mate, sarf lahndan, though not born & bred. When abroad one will identify onesself appropriately, I am 'abroad' on a US website where my nationality mattered WRT my comment, I don't know what you expect me to say.
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    - dang 6y ago
      Please don't post like this here unless you have specific evidence. A Wikipedia link does not count as evidence. It's not that there are no CIA shills. It's that it's impossible to distinguish them from internet user imagination about spies and shillage, which is an extremely prolific and low-quality activity. There's tons of past explanation here: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=astroturf%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: Separately but importantly, could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines also. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=community%20identity%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
  - throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
    Soviet union no longer exists as such so let's talk of current russia. Hence my link. From my link: A CBS News story on the launch of Russia Today quoted Boris Kagarlitsky as saying it was "very much a continuation of the old Soviet propaganda services".[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Soviet_Union#Cinema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Soviet_Union... But no mention of the gulags then.
    - pmachinery 6y ago
      What is your point? That they (either Russia or the Soviet Union) engage/d in propaganda? My comment was that we see Soviet propaganda for what it is, so how do you think you're contradicting or correcting me?
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't create accounts to circumvent moderation limitations like rate limits. Your main account is rate-limited because political and ideological flamewar is not what this site is for. If you don't want to be rate-limited, you're always welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll use the site as intended in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You said > Imagine if the Soviet Union had made endless TV series and movies about the heroic deeds of the KGB OK, where did I get it wrong.

pmachinery2 6y ago
You replied with something that has absolutely nothing to do with: a) the Soviet Union b) TV shows and movies from the Soviet Union c) the KGB What is it you seem to think you got right? [Apparently my post about the CIA is so important/controversial I am now "posting to fast" AKA banned or at least prevented from replying with my account. What a fucking joke.]
- throw2012071056 6y ago
  I am pretty sure that there are CIA shills that's trawling through these boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Earnest_Voice
  - throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
    Sure, but I'm a brit. See my past posts. (and btw no chance of russians doing the same https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino thing is there. Or those these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot doing it for them)
    - throw2012071056 6y ago
      > Sure, but I'm a brit. See my past posts. I am not doubting you being an CIA shill, in fact, I'd give everyone the shadow of a doubt that they are NOT shill. But my point is more towards the fact that I find these boards to be very much influencing people to one specific type of ideology, rather than to provide evidence and have other people having a greater understanding of the matter (which I always assume is what HN is supposed to be). Incidentally, I find it funny that while on US platforms, people call themselves Brit, whereas no one in the UK calls themselves that.
      - throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
        There are shills for various nationalities, chinese, us, russian and (probably a few) brit as well. > I find these boards to be very much influencing people to one specific type of ideology, I find the opposite, a few biased ones and a decent number of independent thinkers. > I find it funny that while on US platforms, people call themselves Brit, whereas no one in the UK calls themselves that. Are you implying I'm not actually a brit but faking one? Londoner, mate, sarf lahndan, though not born & bred. When abroad one will identify onesself appropriately, I am 'abroad' on a US website where my nationality mattered WRT my comment, I don't know what you expect me to say.
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't post like this here unless you have specific evidence. A Wikipedia link does not count as evidence. It's not that there are no CIA shills. It's that it's impossible to distinguish them from internet user imagination about spies and shillage, which is an extremely prolific and low-quality activity. There's tons of past explanation here: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=astroturf%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html Edit: Separately but importantly, could you please stop creating accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do that. This is in the site guidelines also. You needn't use your real name, of course, but for HN to be a community, users need some identity for other users to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community, and that would be a different kind of forum. https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix&page=0&query=community%20identity%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
- throwaway_pdp09 6y ago
  Soviet union no longer exists as such so let's talk of current russia. Hence my link. From my link: A CBS News story on the launch of Russia Today quoted Boris Kagarlitsky as saying it was "very much a continuation of the old Soviet propaganda services".[10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Soviet_Union#Cinema https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Soviet_Union... But no mention of the gulags then.
  - pmachinery 6y ago
    What is your point? That they (either Russia or the Soviet Union) engage/d in propaganda? My comment was that we see Soviet propaganda for what it is, so how do you think you're contradicting or correcting me?
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't create accounts to circumvent moderation limitations like rate limits. Your main account is rate-limited because political and ideological flamewar is not what this site is for. If you don't want to be rate-limited, you're always welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll use the site as intended in the future. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html