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The article is about that. Bell inequalities proved there isn’t ‘predestined’ effect(If you mean ‘hidden variables’ by that)
by annilt 6y ago
The article is about that. Bell inequalities proved there isn’t ‘predestined’ effect(If you mean ‘hidden variables’ by that)
- derbOac 6y agoBut isn't superdeterminism still possible? I thought that was implied by the article's first assumption that physics was loathe to abandon, that the experimenters had free will, so to speak.
- andreareina 6y agoIs superdeterminism even falsifiable?
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- fsh 6y agoNone of the interpretations of quantum mechanics are. By design, they all predict exactly the same outcome for any conceivable experiment. The subject is entirely philosophical, not scientific.
- andreareina 6y agoThey make predictions, which can be falsified. They even make different predictions---Scott Aaronson agrees that WF poses problems for the standard Copenhagen interpretation. Sean Carroll is on record somewhere saying that e.g. objective collapse models predict an in principle measurably different evolution of a system's entropy than many worlds. I suppose I should have asked what predictions SD actually makes.
- fsh 6y agoObjective-collapse theory is a modification of QM, not merely an interpretation. Superdeterminism on the other hand is not even a theory. It cannot be falsified by design.
- tsimionescu 6y agoCopenhagen Interpretation and MWI don't make different predictions from each other, but there are other theories that do. For example, pilot-wave theory makes different predictions. There are also some superdeterminist theories that make new predictions (Gerard T'Hooft is one advocate of such theories, I believe). Unfortunately I don't know of any concrete examples. Here is some more information on the subject from Sabine Hossenfelder: http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-forgotten-solution-superdeterminism.html?m=1 http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-forgotten-solut...
- andreareina 6y agoNo local hidden variables. Unless there's been a new development?
- annilt 6y agoYes, you’re right. I meant local hidden variables.
- andreareina 6y agoAww. I was hoping for a new development haha.
- alisonkisk 6y agoGlobal hidden variables are the predestined effect. The argument against global hidden variables is that it requires a godlike meddling in the whole universe to populate an infinite amount of arbitrary asymmetric details.