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the price point we are at in our spec already is at $150 so we have left $50 or more to add cooler shit

by cubrilovic 18y ago

rms 18y ago
Where are you getting the screen?
- cubrilovic 18y ago
  our supply chain guys sourced it - we haven't set yet if we are going LCD or exact specific specs (we need to run power tests). the dual touch pad sitting behind it is coming out of a company that hasn't seen their tech integrated into a major product yet. im sorry we cant mention company names just yet - we are doing this through proxy (ie. using a supply chain company, design firm and manufacturer). I am hoping I can publish the full tech details at some point in the next 24h and we can go from there
  - noonespecial 18y ago
    It always seems like it works out this way. Secret sources to be named "soon". Untested near-products that aren't quite ready for release... Lets do it with stuff we can get and see what happens: Main Board: (truly open, schematics and all) : http://beagleboard.org/ http://beagleboard.org/ ($149) Screen : Lilliput 8" 1024x768 touch screen (http://www.case-mod.com/lilliput-809gl80npct-lcd-touch-screen-vga-monitor-charcoal-p-1206.html?src=fr http://www.case-mod.com/lilliput-809gl80npct-lcd-touch-scree...) ($259) Network : 802.11g wifi (http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Wi-Fi.html http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Wi-Fi.html) ($30) Battery: 7.4v LiIon 5200mAh (4 hours run) http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2210 http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&#38... ($50) Case: Injection Mold plastic (http://www.emachineshop.com/molding_machines/injection_molding.htm http://www.emachineshop.com/molding_machines/injection_moldi...) ($10) Cost to build a single one, ignoring volume discounts and cost to assemble: $498. Being able to make one without a proxy (ie. using a supply chain company, design firm and manufacturer). : Priceless.
    - rms 18y ago
      this is too slow, but it costs $6. http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/arm-sbc.php#ts-7800-series http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/arm-sbc.php#ts-7800-seri... What can you get for $50 worth of embedded mainboard?
    - cubrilovic 18y ago
      wow you are way off
  - ph0rque 18y ago
    I really hope the screen company is Pixel Qi. Here is their prediction for a touchscreen price: "INTEGRATED TOUCHSCREENS Touch should just be an incremental cost increase to the screen and embedded directly into it. Pixel Qi is working on low-cost approachs to integrated touch with a target of a $5 -$10 pricetag." (http://pixelqi.com/products http://pixelqi.com/products)
    - rms 18y ago
      They aren't selling the touchscreen yet, only the original OLPC XO screen.
      - ph0rque 18y ago
        I realize that, but hopefully TC is in talks with PQ about trying out prototypes, etc...
- menloparkbum 18y ago
  +1 to where are you getting the screen. I recently (4 months ago) was involved with a touch screen project and the available screens were garbage compared to the iphone. if techcrunch has a source for awesome touch panels that is amazing but I'm skeptical. the rest of the hardware is tricky but at least doable. the software stack will take at least four times longer than estimated, perhaps moreso now that every armchair programmer on the internet has been invited to participate.
utnick 18y ago
who are you?
- cubrilovic 18y ago
  editor at tcit - we are running the design + software build etc.
  - utnick 18y ago
    Cool! Do you have experience in hardware design, managing a hardware project, etc etc?
    - gamerates 18y ago
      "Nik Cubrilovic (koo-bree-low-vick) is an Australian-born entrepreneur, technologist, software developer and blogger. Nik is the founder and CEO of Omnidrive, a web content and storage platform. Nik was also the founder of Solutionstap, a technology solutions and software development company. Prior to Solutionstap, Nik was a freelance developer, project manager and security specialist in Australia, the UK, South Africa and throughout Europe. Nik has contributed to a large number of open source projects and published a number of security vulnerabilities for various platforms and applications since 1996. In 2007, Nik was named in The Bulletin magazine as one of Australia’s “Smart 100.” Nik has been a contributor and advisor to Techcrunch since 2005. In 1998 Nik was a founding member of the 2600 chapter in Australia, and in 2005 was a founding member of 2web, a loose-knit group of Australian technology entrepreneurs. Nik has advised, or is a current advisor to a range of companies and startups based in both Australia and the USA." -As per his bio
corentin 18y ago
There is a huge difference between a $200 device and a device whose bill of materials happens to be $200...

the price point we are at in our spec already is at $150 so we have left $50 or more to add cooler shit

rms 18y ago

Where are you getting the screen?

cubrilovic 18y ago
our supply chain guys sourced it - we haven't set yet if we are going LCD or exact specific specs (we need to run power tests). the dual touch pad sitting behind it is coming out of a company that hasn't seen their tech integrated into a major product yet. im sorry we cant mention company names just yet - we are doing this through proxy (ie. using a supply chain company, design firm and manufacturer). I am hoping I can publish the full tech details at some point in the next 24h and we can go from there
- noonespecial 18y ago
  It always seems like it works out this way. Secret sources to be named "soon". Untested near-products that aren't quite ready for release... Lets do it with stuff we can get and see what happens: Main Board: (truly open, schematics and all) : http://beagleboard.org/ http://beagleboard.org/ ($149) Screen : Lilliput 8" 1024x768 touch screen (http://www.case-mod.com/lilliput-809gl80npct-lcd-touch-screen-vga-monitor-charcoal-p-1206.html?src=fr http://www.case-mod.com/lilliput-809gl80npct-lcd-touch-scree...) ($259) Network : 802.11g wifi (http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Wi-Fi.html http://www.usbgear.com/USB-Wi-Fi.html) ($30) Battery: 7.4v LiIon 5200mAh (4 hours run) http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2210 http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&#38... ($50) Case: Injection Mold plastic (http://www.emachineshop.com/molding_machines/injection_molding.htm http://www.emachineshop.com/molding_machines/injection_moldi...) ($10) Cost to build a single one, ignoring volume discounts and cost to assemble: $498. Being able to make one without a proxy (ie. using a supply chain company, design firm and manufacturer). : Priceless.
  - rms 18y ago
    this is too slow, but it costs $6. http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/arm-sbc.php#ts-7800-series http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/arm-sbc.php#ts-7800-seri... What can you get for $50 worth of embedded mainboard?
  - cubrilovic 18y ago
    wow you are way off
- ph0rque 18y ago
  I really hope the screen company is Pixel Qi. Here is their prediction for a touchscreen price: "INTEGRATED TOUCHSCREENS Touch should just be an incremental cost increase to the screen and embedded directly into it. Pixel Qi is working on low-cost approachs to integrated touch with a target of a $5 -$10 pricetag." (http://pixelqi.com/products http://pixelqi.com/products)
  - rms 18y ago
    They aren't selling the touchscreen yet, only the original OLPC XO screen.
    - ph0rque 18y ago
      I realize that, but hopefully TC is in talks with PQ about trying out prototypes, etc...
menloparkbum 18y ago
+1 to where are you getting the screen. I recently (4 months ago) was involved with a touch screen project and the available screens were garbage compared to the iphone. if techcrunch has a source for awesome touch panels that is amazing but I'm skeptical. the rest of the hardware is tricky but at least doable. the software stack will take at least four times longer than estimated, perhaps moreso now that every armchair programmer on the internet has been invited to participate.

utnick 18y ago

who are you?

cubrilovic 18y ago
editor at tcit - we are running the design + software build etc.
- utnick 18y ago
  Cool! Do you have experience in hardware design, managing a hardware project, etc etc?
  - gamerates 18y ago
    "Nik Cubrilovic (koo-bree-low-vick) is an Australian-born entrepreneur, technologist, software developer and blogger. Nik is the founder and CEO of Omnidrive, a web content and storage platform. Nik was also the founder of Solutionstap, a technology solutions and software development company. Prior to Solutionstap, Nik was a freelance developer, project manager and security specialist in Australia, the UK, South Africa and throughout Europe. Nik has contributed to a large number of open source projects and published a number of security vulnerabilities for various platforms and applications since 1996. In 2007, Nik was named in The Bulletin magazine as one of Australia’s “Smart 100.” Nik has been a contributor and advisor to Techcrunch since 2005. In 1998 Nik was a founding member of the 2600 chapter in Australia, and in 2005 was a founding member of 2web, a loose-knit group of Australian technology entrepreneurs. Nik has advised, or is a current advisor to a range of companies and startups based in both Australia and the USA." -As per his bio

corentin 18y ago

There is a huge difference between a $200 device and a device whose bill of materials happens to be $200...