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>No you dont get it, its not a projection. It's IMAX-level projection. >Some people dont want to deal with police complaint. And if they don't want to, it's

>No you dont get it, its not a projection. It's IMAX-level projection. >Some people dont want to deal with police complaint. And if they don't want to, it's not the companies place to babysit and play judge and jury. >If you dont understand that you will never get it. If you don't understand that it's not the company's place to play the judicial branch (and may be illegal for them to), then you'll never get it. It is by definition the wrong thing to do. QED.

sumedh 6y ago
> it's not the companies place to babysit and play judge and jury. yes it, why do you support people who abuse, why should they still be kept in the company if the evidence is credible? So does it mean now you understood why some people dont want file a police complaint?
- throwawayriver 6y ago
  >yes it, why do you support people who abuse I don't, and neither should the company, which is why they should call the police. >why should they still be kept in the company if the evidence is credible? Company is free to fire criminals if they want, no issues there. Many don't hire criminals to begin with, since your criminal history is public. >So does it mean now you understood why some people dont want file a police complaint? This is non-sense. If you're the victim of a crime, report the crime to the police.
  - sumedh 6y ago
    > Company is free to fire criminals if they want They are not yet criminals though. > If you're the victim of a crime, report the crime to the police. and you still dont get it.
    - throwawayriver 6y ago
      >They are not yet criminals though. They're free to fire, furlough, place on paid leave, etc. >and you still dont get it. And there you go with the IMAX-level projection; it's painfully obvious you have no clue.
  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > I don't, and neither should the company, which is why they should call the police. Sexual harassment generally is not a crime (though it overlaps with some crimes), and even if there is a crime involved the police and public prosecutor are under no obligation to do anything about it. The employer, however, is under an enforceable legal obligation to do something about harassment.
    - throwawayriver 6y ago
      "Sexual harassment" is a blanket term for various behaviors that are criminal. Unwarranted touching is sexual assault, sexual messages are illegal harassment, etc. >even if there is a crime involved the police and public prosecutor are under no obligation to do anything about it. Immaterial since that can be applied to anything, criminal or civil.
dragonwriter 6y ago
> And if they don't want to, it's not the companies place to babysit and play judge and jury. It's absolutely the companies enforceable legal obligation to effectively prevent (including terminating ongoing) sexual harassment even if there is no crime, crime report, or criminal law enforcement action. Sexual harassment overlaps with a variety of crimes, but it doesn't require a crime, and the employer is civilly liable for it no matter if the individual causing the problem has committed or been investigated for a crime or not.

sumedh 6y ago

> it's not the companies place to babysit and play judge and jury. yes it, why do you support people who abuse, why should they still be kept in the company if the evidence is credible? So does it mean now you understood why some people dont want file a police complaint?

throwawayriver 6y ago
>yes it, why do you support people who abuse I don't, and neither should the company, which is why they should call the police. >why should they still be kept in the company if the evidence is credible? Company is free to fire criminals if they want, no issues there. Many don't hire criminals to begin with, since your criminal history is public. >So does it mean now you understood why some people dont want file a police complaint? This is non-sense. If you're the victim of a crime, report the crime to the police.
- sumedh 6y ago
  > Company is free to fire criminals if they want They are not yet criminals though. > If you're the victim of a crime, report the crime to the police. and you still dont get it.
  - throwawayriver 6y ago
    >They are not yet criminals though. They're free to fire, furlough, place on paid leave, etc. >and you still dont get it. And there you go with the IMAX-level projection; it's painfully obvious you have no clue.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > I don't, and neither should the company, which is why they should call the police. Sexual harassment generally is not a crime (though it overlaps with some crimes), and even if there is a crime involved the police and public prosecutor are under no obligation to do anything about it. The employer, however, is under an enforceable legal obligation to do something about harassment.
  - throwawayriver 6y ago
    "Sexual harassment" is a blanket term for various behaviors that are criminal. Unwarranted touching is sexual assault, sexual messages are illegal harassment, etc. >even if there is a crime involved the police and public prosecutor are under no obligation to do anything about it. Immaterial since that can be applied to anything, criminal or civil.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> And if they don't want to, it's not the companies place to babysit and play judge and jury. It's absolutely the companies enforceable legal obligation to effectively prevent (including terminating ongoing) sexual harassment even if there is no crime, crime report, or criminal law enforcement action. Sexual harassment overlaps with a variety of crimes, but it doesn't require a crime, and the employer is civilly liable for it no matter if the individual causing the problem has committed or been investigated for a crime or not.