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Cities struggle to build better public transport because car owners complain en masse about any impingement on their freedoms. Car supremacy is a big wedge iss

Cities struggle to build better public transport because car owners complain en masse about any impingement on their freedoms. Car supremacy is a big wedge issue in Norway, which is paradoxically a big oil exporter, and the worlds leader in electric vehicle usage. It even has has its own single issue political party, I wonder if big oil money is behind it? https://www.lifeinnorway.net/norways-drivers-rally-against-road-tolls/ https://www.lifeinnorway.net/norways-drivers-rally-against-r...

kristofferR 6y ago
That's a weird conspiracy theory, the FNB actually has valid complaints, although I disagree with them overall. The way the green change has been implemented here in Norway has unfortunately often been extremely conservative (instead of progressive) - the well-off living centrally in the cities gets massive subsidies for purchasing their Teslas while the less fortunate needs to pay hefty tolls for their old gasoline cars.
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npsimons 6y ago
> impingement on their freedoms. It's funny what terms we choose (framing) can do. "death tax" instead of "inheritance tax", "driver's rights" instead of "driver's privileges." People all too often forget that driving in public places requires a license, it's not a right, it's a privilege that has to be earned.
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hhjinks 6y ago
FNB is about "bompenger", basically a fee paid when crossing certain spots with your motor vehicle, often used to pay for road maintenance etc. Usually you have to cross one or more of these spots before getting into any major city. Since it's a flat fee, it disproportionally affects less affluent families, who often need their car more than the average family. These fees are often quite expensive. You might have to pay €5-10 to deliver the kids to kindergarten, and then get to work, if you live outside the city. That can be as much as €400 a month, just passive, unavoidable expanses for a lot of families. The reason FNB was founded is because these fees have increased substantially in recent years. The camel's back finally broke, and FNB became an actual political block in like a year. I would argue FNB is a prime example of democracy working for the people. The two established ruling parties kept wringing money from people using bompenger until they had enough and took a lot of power for themselves.

kristofferR 6y ago

That's a weird conspiracy theory, the FNB actually has valid complaints, although I disagree with them overall. The way the green change has been implemented here in Norway has unfortunately often been extremely conservative (instead of progressive) - the well-off living centrally in the cities gets massive subsidies for purchasing their Teslas while the less fortunate needs to pay hefty tolls for their old gasoline cars.

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npsimons 6y ago

> impingement on their freedoms. It's funny what terms we choose (framing) can do. "death tax" instead of "inheritance tax", "driver's rights" instead of "driver's privileges." People all too often forget that driving in public places requires a license, it's not a right, it's a privilege that has to be earned.

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hhjinks 6y ago

FNB is about "bompenger", basically a fee paid when crossing certain spots with your motor vehicle, often used to pay for road maintenance etc. Usually you have to cross one or more of these spots before getting into any major city. Since it's a flat fee, it disproportionally affects less affluent families, who often need their car more than the average family. These fees are often quite expensive. You might have to pay €5-10 to deliver the kids to kindergarten, and then get to work, if you live outside the city. That can be as much as €400 a month, just passive, unavoidable expanses for a lot of families. The reason FNB was founded is because these fees have increased substantially in recent years. The camel's back finally broke, and FNB became an actual political block in like a year. I would argue FNB is a prime example of democracy working for the people. The two established ruling parties kept wringing money from people using bompenger until they had enough and took a lot of power for themselves.