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What kind of abuse?

chapel 15y ago
Someone registering the trademark underneath them, using the trademark for illegal activities, pretty much anything negative. Some people seem to be alarmed and think that you won't be able to use node/node.js in your domain names, but you just need to get a license. Like with anything else.
- va_coder 15y ago
  Cool. So if/when Oracle buys Joyent they won't use the trademark for nefarious purposes? Why not transfer it to Apache? Have people abused Apache server? Apache Lucene? Apache CouchDB? We heard the same thing from Sun about Java. It's a slippery slope. Anyone who puts a lot of time or effort into Node at this point and later gets burned has no one to blame but themselves.
  - pquerna 15y ago
    I would prefer that node was part of a non-profit foundation of some kind rather than Joyent, but that is largely under the bridge at this point. It was discussed heavily when this change was made in november 2010: http://markmail.org/message/wyi2r4ntzlmawp6e#query:+page:1+mid:e6mgrlq5r6x4xxsb+state:results http://markmail.org/message/wyi2r4ntzlmawp6e#query:+page:1+m...
  - carson 15y ago
    The thing to keep in mind is that this is just a trademark on a product. It isn't a patent on the idea of a server side evented javascript engine. There is nothing stopping someone from creating another engine that works exactly the same way and that is compatible with all the current modules.
  - Kudose 15y ago
    "Anyone who puts a lot of time or effort into Node at this point and later gets burned has no one to blame but themselves." Exactly. I was getting into it, but I am going to ditch it until this is all sorted out.
    - randylahey 15y ago
      Doesn't that seem reactionary and knee jerk? Do you not use countless other products because their names have been trademarked by an organization?
      - Kudose 15y ago
        Um ... yeah. Anything that Microsoft touches.
  - Apocryphon 15y ago
    I highly doubt that Joyent is going to slinging around lawsuits as if they were a firm involved in mobile phone patents.
  - randylahey 15y ago
    Node.js is MIT licensed, so no, that won't happen.

What kind of abuse?

Someone registering the trademark underneath them, using the trademark for illegal activities, pretty much anything negative. Some people seem to be alarmed and think that you won't be able to use node/node.js in your domain names, but you just need to get a license. Like with anything else.

va_coder 15y ago
Cool. So if/when Oracle buys Joyent they won't use the trademark for nefarious purposes? Why not transfer it to Apache? Have people abused Apache server? Apache Lucene? Apache CouchDB? We heard the same thing from Sun about Java. It's a slippery slope. Anyone who puts a lot of time or effort into Node at this point and later gets burned has no one to blame but themselves.
- pquerna 15y ago
  I would prefer that node was part of a non-profit foundation of some kind rather than Joyent, but that is largely under the bridge at this point. It was discussed heavily when this change was made in november 2010: http://markmail.org/message/wyi2r4ntzlmawp6e#query:+page:1+mid:e6mgrlq5r6x4xxsb+state:results http://markmail.org/message/wyi2r4ntzlmawp6e#query:+page:1+m...
- carson 15y ago
  The thing to keep in mind is that this is just a trademark on a product. It isn't a patent on the idea of a server side evented javascript engine. There is nothing stopping someone from creating another engine that works exactly the same way and that is compatible with all the current modules.
- Kudose 15y ago
  "Anyone who puts a lot of time or effort into Node at this point and later gets burned has no one to blame but themselves." Exactly. I was getting into it, but I am going to ditch it until this is all sorted out.
  - randylahey 15y ago
    Doesn't that seem reactionary and knee jerk? Do you not use countless other products because their names have been trademarked by an organization?
    - Kudose 15y ago
      Um ... yeah. Anything that Microsoft touches.
- Apocryphon 15y ago
  I highly doubt that Joyent is going to slinging around lawsuits as if they were a firm involved in mobile phone patents.
- randylahey 15y ago
  Node.js is MIT licensed, so no, that won't happen.