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To be fair, you made a claim that "mental health treatment has come an incredibly long way". And the only evidence you have offered to back that up is a vague p
by meritganset 6y ago
To be fair, you made a claim that "mental health treatment has come an incredibly long way". And the only evidence you have offered to back that up is a vague personal anecdote.
The poster was simply providing their viewpoint on the state of mental health that differs from yours.
I understand these things can cause strong emotions, but you don't do yourself or your stance any favors by letting it get the best of you here.
- ChrisMarshallNY 6y agoTo be fair, even though I am not, myself, a therapist, I have been dealing with them for decades. It's not "vague, personal anecdotes." It's real world experience. But you are right. This is upsetting, and seeing the way that it is being treated by people that I respect, otherwise, is upsetting. This is the last I'll say anything.
- airstrike 6y agoVague personal anecdotes doesn't mean they are not from the real world. You're taking someone else's valid criticism of the state of the therapy methods available today and taking it personally as well as unwarrantedly attributing it to a lack of sympathy. You fail to understand that the goal of criticizing the therapy method is precisely so we may find ways to improve it.
- tsm_sf 6y agoWhat makes this single point of view a valid criticism?
- airstrike 6y agoWhat makes it not valid? It would actually be great to have an answer to that instead of the parent's complaints
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoBecause, getting back to the original point, stating "Mental health treatment has come an incredibly long way, just in the last couple of decades" without offering any substantive support for this viewpoint (regardless of whether one's anecdotes are "real world" or not) is, in and of itself, a valid criticism. The onus is on the person making the claim to provide a rationale to back it up.
- behringer 6y agoVague personal anecdote's versus hutzlibu's vague personal anecdotes. Quite frankly, the pills work. A lot of people would unable to lead normal lives without them.
- BigBubbleButt 6y ago> Quite frankly, the pills work. Sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. I had a seizure because of medication I was put on for a mental illness I didn't believe I had. I wasn't 18 and my parents essentially forced me to take them. The pills didn't do anything for me besides give me a seizure that easily could've killed me (I was hospitalized). There's also actual research suggesting these pills can increase suicide attempts. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3353604/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3353604/ There is enormous money to be made suggesting these pills are useful, so I don't just assume it to be true. I also know many other people who feel anti-depressants ruined their lives. I also know many people who feel anti-depressants saved their lives. It's not black and white. Personally, I feel the efficacy of pills for mental health are greatly exaggerated - but it's easy to see why I might be biased.
- OpticalWindows 6y agoAlso the placebo effect is right on their heels in terms of effectiveness
- lazyasciiart 6y agoCan the placebo exist without the "real" pills? More practically, does anyone prescribe placebo outside of a clinical trial?
- manquer 6y agoHomeopathic treatment is largely placebo. A board certified doc will never prescribe placebo he will get sued, plenty of ppl are getting them via alternative medicine though