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You'd probably be better off by using a service like https://www.irccloud.com/ https://www.irccloud.com/ If you can spare a few more minutes, hosting an IRC cl

by jdu9 6y ago

You'd probably be better off by using a service like https://www.irccloud.com/ https://www.irccloud.com/ If you can spare a few more minutes, hosting an IRC client on your own server would probably be the best choice. For example: ZNC (bouncer), WeeChat (relay -> app) or Quassel.

nexuist 6y ago
This is the great irony, isn't it? You want to escape Discord, because it's centralized, so you jump to a decentralized service, whose user experience sucks, so you sign up for another centralized service, just so you can use the decentralized service that was supposed to get you away from centralization in the first place.
- encom 6y ago
  IRC has a objectively better user experience, since I didn't have to dox myself to some shady corporation to start using it.
  - Talanes 6y ago
    If IRC had an objectively better user experience, objective usage numbers would show that. It has a better user experience /for you/ because it caters to the things that /you/ care about. I'm not sure what pretending your preferences are objective standards is supposed to add to the conversation.
- branon 6y ago
  Using a centralized IRC service like IRCCloud is an option, but not one I would opt for personally. There are also other options, ZNC and The Lounge both come to mind. You can self-host these or find an instance hosted by somebody else.
- zanny 6y ago
  Self-hosted Matrix works fine and great. You can host either just a server, Riot (Element now), or both. You can then use any client you want with your server or any other.
- jdu9 6y ago
  That is why I literally said in my second paragraph that "hosting [...] your own server would probably be the best choice". Also, I was replying to somebody who complained about connection issues on his phone. He probably doesn't want to have a random timeouts when he travels from one place to another and potentionally miss important messages... Furthermore, IRCCloud is not centralized in the same way as Discord is because you are not forced to use it. IRC is still an open protocol. For example Matrix has a big chunk of people using the official "centralized" Matrix server and the same is true for Mastodon with mastodon.social. Some prefer to self-host, others do not. I don't see the problem here. Gmail wasn't the downfall of email either.

by jdu9 6y ago

nexuist 6y ago

This is the great irony, isn't it? You want to escape Discord, because it's centralized, so you jump to a decentralized service, whose user experience sucks, so you sign up for another centralized service, just so you can use the decentralized service that was supposed to get you away from centralization in the first place.

encom 6y ago
IRC has a objectively better user experience, since I didn't have to dox myself to some shady corporation to start using it.
- Talanes 6y ago
  If IRC had an objectively better user experience, objective usage numbers would show that. It has a better user experience /for you/ because it caters to the things that /you/ care about. I'm not sure what pretending your preferences are objective standards is supposed to add to the conversation.
branon 6y ago
Using a centralized IRC service like IRCCloud is an option, but not one I would opt for personally. There are also other options, ZNC and The Lounge both come to mind. You can self-host these or find an instance hosted by somebody else.
zanny 6y ago
Self-hosted Matrix works fine and great. You can host either just a server, Riot (Element now), or both. You can then use any client you want with your server or any other.
jdu9 6y ago
That is why I literally said in my second paragraph that "hosting [...] your own server would probably be the best choice". Also, I was replying to somebody who complained about connection issues on his phone. He probably doesn't want to have a random timeouts when he travels from one place to another and potentionally miss important messages... Furthermore, IRCCloud is not centralized in the same way as Discord is because you are not forced to use it. IRC is still an open protocol. For example Matrix has a big chunk of people using the official "centralized" Matrix server and the same is true for Mastodon with mastodon.social. Some prefer to self-host, others do not. I don't see the problem here. Gmail wasn't the downfall of email either.