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Are any of those platforms ready yet for everyone to use? I feel like we're getting closer, and devs and most designers probably can leave WP behind, but if I h

Are any of those platforms ready yet for everyone to use? I feel like we're getting closer, and devs and most designers probably can leave WP behind, but if I have a friend who wants a site and I don't want to ever touch it for them, I'm not sure I know of a non-WP option that is ready for that. Ghost, maybe?

whatsmyusername 6y ago
Hugo, jekyll, webflow, wordpress.com, I'm sure there are others.
- arkitaip 6y ago
  Good luck getting businesses to manage hugo or jekyll on their $10 hosting.
  - whatsmyusername 6y ago
    The request was for something they could setup and not look at. If it's a throwaway site that's what I use (usually backed by s3/cloudfront). Costs pennies and can be ignored for years without issue.
joe_momma 6y ago
Contentful is great for content management
nevi-me 6y ago
Ghost needs the developer momentum that WP and other PHP frameworks got. I last used it in 1., and picked it up 2 weeks ago when I found myself needing a headless CMS. I got a sense from the new features since 1. that it's moving towards a membership system which might not be relevant for many websites. In terms of an editor and a way to expose content, is good enough; but like I say with more developers, this could bring more hands to implement stronger plugin systems and improve the core editing options.
singemonkey 6y ago
For non-technical people who just want to create content, I'd recommend a hosted service, like Squarespace, Wix, etc. Even wordpress.com if they want something relatively simply and 'bloggy'. I've stopped recommending the self-hosted (wordpress.org) version to non technical people (even if it's a 1 click hosting platform), because there are just too many things that can go wrong, particularly with plugins. As a developer, my experience with Statamic and Laravel has been joyful, compared to WP.
georgiecasey 6y ago
> but if I have a friend who wants a site and I don't want to ever touch it for them I did this for a few friends, hosted them on my server, set up Wordpress. Worked for some but most found even Wordpres too complicated. I sent to them to Squarespace and they're happy with that, albeit paying a hefty enough monthly fee after the initial trial period. Not my problem though! washing my hands

whatsmyusername 6y ago

Hugo, jekyll, webflow, wordpress.com, I'm sure there are others.

arkitaip 6y ago
Good luck getting businesses to manage hugo or jekyll on their $10 hosting.
- whatsmyusername 6y ago
  The request was for something they could setup and not look at. If it's a throwaway site that's what I use (usually backed by s3/cloudfront). Costs pennies and can be ignored for years without issue.

joe_momma 6y ago

Contentful is great for content management

nevi-me 6y ago

Ghost needs the developer momentum that WP and other PHP frameworks got. I last used it in 1., and picked it up 2 weeks ago when I found myself needing a headless CMS. I got a sense from the new features since 1. that it's moving towards a membership system which might not be relevant for many websites. In terms of an editor and a way to expose content, is good enough; but like I say with more developers, this could bring more hands to implement stronger plugin systems and improve the core editing options.

singemonkey 6y ago

For non-technical people who just want to create content, I'd recommend a hosted service, like Squarespace, Wix, etc. Even wordpress.com if they want something relatively simply and 'bloggy'. I've stopped recommending the self-hosted (wordpress.org) version to non technical people (even if it's a 1 click hosting platform), because there are just too many things that can go wrong, particularly with plugins. As a developer, my experience with Statamic and Laravel has been joyful, compared to WP.

georgiecasey 6y ago

> but if I have a friend who wants a site and I don't want to ever touch it for them I did this for a few friends, hosted them on my server, set up Wordpress. Worked for some but most found even Wordpres too complicated. I sent to them to Squarespace and they're happy with that, albeit paying a hefty enough monthly fee after the initial trial period. Not my problem though! washing my hands