I couldn't find this Joe Rogan podcast (don't think he ever recorded one) but this interview with Dan Patrick is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyI

I couldn't find this Joe Rogan podcast (don't think he ever recorded one) but this interview with Dan Patrick is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyIcu-mpWA0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyIcu-mpWA0