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It’s not at all clear how you are comparing Linux to its closed competitors, but frankly, if that’s the best example you can pick, I’d suggest copyright is larg

It’s not at all clear how you are comparing Linux to its closed competitors, but frankly, if that’s the best example you can pick, I’d suggest copyright is largely winning that battle. Yes, Linux has probably “won” in some markets (servers/IoT being the obvious ones), but there are plenty of markets where that is not even close to being true.

necheffa 6y ago
> plenty Actually, just one, the desktop. In virtually every other market, Linux is either dominating or has a firm share.
- ChrisLomont 6y ago
  Phones, billions of devices running various embedded real-time os, gaming like Xbox and playstation, watches, smart TVs, medical devices, space systems, and many other places are not Linux dominated, and many of these have almost zero Linux presence.
  - patmorgan23 6y ago
    Xbox runs windows not Linux.
  - est31 6y ago
    > Phones For smartphones, Linux-based Android has the largest market share. It is linux dominated. For less smart phones, there are Linux based operating systems like KaiOS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS Linux based OSs having 87% market share in india: https://www.androidauthority.com/india-kaios-market-share-885349/ https://www.androidauthority.com/india-kaios-market-share-88... Global 74% market share for Android: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide > gaming like Xbox and playstation Yes, I think most deployed devices don't use Linux, and I'm not aware of any major linux using gaming console, but it's not unheard of, e.g. SNES classic mini. Also, from what I saw, Linux has a good foothold for game streaming offerings, but it's a new market and not yet established that it'll last. > smart TVs smart TVs are almost exclusively on Linux! https://www.statista.com/statistics/257778/number-of-smart-tvs-installed-worldwide/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/257778/number-of-smart-t... WebOS, Tizen, Android TV, Roku OS, Firefox OS, Amazon Fire TV, all uses Linux.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      Those are phyrric victories, nothing from Linux is exposed to userspace. Google can replace Linux with Zirkon tomorrow and 99% of Android apps won't even notice. Just like TVs, who cares what OS a smart TV is running.
- the-dude 6y ago
  MS dominates the server side in corporations too.
  - prepend 6y ago
    I don’t think any more. With cloud, AWS, Azure, Google have more Linux server vms than windows. So maybe MS dominates the withering on prem data center world. But that’s smaller than cloud nowadays.
kgwxd 6y ago
Almost all serious competition to Linux exist only because of copyright.

necheffa 6y ago

> plenty Actually, just one, the desktop. In virtually every other market, Linux is either dominating or has a firm share.

ChrisLomont 6y ago
Phones, billions of devices running various embedded real-time os, gaming like Xbox and playstation, watches, smart TVs, medical devices, space systems, and many other places are not Linux dominated, and many of these have almost zero Linux presence.
- patmorgan23 6y ago
  Xbox runs windows not Linux.
- est31 6y ago
  > Phones For smartphones, Linux-based Android has the largest market share. It is linux dominated. For less smart phones, there are Linux based operating systems like KaiOS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS Linux based OSs having 87% market share in india: https://www.androidauthority.com/india-kaios-market-share-885349/ https://www.androidauthority.com/india-kaios-market-share-88... Global 74% market share for Android: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/worldwide > gaming like Xbox and playstation Yes, I think most deployed devices don't use Linux, and I'm not aware of any major linux using gaming console, but it's not unheard of, e.g. SNES classic mini. Also, from what I saw, Linux has a good foothold for game streaming offerings, but it's a new market and not yet established that it'll last. > smart TVs smart TVs are almost exclusively on Linux! https://www.statista.com/statistics/257778/number-of-smart-tvs-installed-worldwide/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/257778/number-of-smart-t... WebOS, Tizen, Android TV, Roku OS, Firefox OS, Amazon Fire TV, all uses Linux.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Those are phyrric victories, nothing from Linux is exposed to userspace. Google can replace Linux with Zirkon tomorrow and 99% of Android apps won't even notice. Just like TVs, who cares what OS a smart TV is running.
the-dude 6y ago
MS dominates the server side in corporations too.
- prepend 6y ago
  I don’t think any more. With cloud, AWS, Azure, Google have more Linux server vms than windows. So maybe MS dominates the withering on prem data center world. But that’s smaller than cloud nowadays.

kgwxd 6y ago

Almost all serious competition to Linux exist only because of copyright.